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Superbowl HCs (first 2 yrs)

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If he took 10 steps back....he simply wouldn't have more wins and finish better in his division as a result (losing his Pro Bowl C, best corner)-

Cam Newton can win championships. His relationship there is most important. Not all rings are won bc of great coaching....but more so handling of special players. RR has at least one of those that can take over a season as he matures.

So beating teams like Philly, Oakland and SD means a lot right? We loss to the worst team in the league and Brady Quinn. We couldnt hold a lead over the Bucs. And that NO team is awful. Other than the Atl game all those late wins mean $hit to me

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CRA Grand Master

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I'll save you time. A large majority of coaches who started out with back to back losing seasons didn't go on to to post winning records, much less a Super Bowl. They just ended up being failures.

A large a majority of all coaches (winning seasons, losing seasons, whatever criteria you pick) don't win rings.....overwhelming majority of all coaches are fired and deemed failures.

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Is there a particular reason Rivera was canned right after the game?

Word in Chicago was.....Lovie felt uncomfortable his team got to a Superbowl on the back of Rivera's D and Hester. Rivera was becoming a threat.

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A large a majority of all coaches (winning seasons, losing seasons, whatever criteria you pick) don't win rings.....overwhelming majority of all coaches are fired and deemed failures.

Uh. Yes. Most coaches fail. The point being that the deck is stacked even more when they start out as poorly as Rivera has.

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Word in Chicago was.....Lovie felt uncomfortable his team got to a Superbowl on the back of Rivera's D and Hester. Rivera was becoming a threat.

Or the fact that Rivera was foisted onto him and Smith didn't need him to build a good defense.

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So you're saying just by the numbers, Ron Rivera's coaching acumen can only be matched by none other than Bill Belichick and Tom Coughlin?

No, saying by the numbers.....coaches grow and develop like players.

Bill Belichick wasn't the same coach year 2 as 10. DeAngelo Williams wasn't the same player year 2 as 3.

Simply pointing out.....2 years doesn't define someone. That is the point. Not comparing RR really to anyone. Moving on too soon....sometimes hurts you and rewards others.

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No, saying by the numbers.....coaches grow and develop like players.

Bill Belichick wasn't the same coach year 2 as 10. DeAngelo Williams wasn't the same player year 2 as 3.

Simply pointing out.....2 years doesn't define someone. That is the point. Not comparing RR really to anyone. Moving on too soon....sometimes hurts you and rewards others.

It could be, but my problem is all of Rivera's wins have come against teams with little to play for or losing records. Too many times our team has come out looking unprepared and that is unacceptable. He's made too many questionable decisions and quotes for me to give him the benefit of the doubt and think he's not who he has appeared to be thus far.

But, my opinion is of little consequence. I'm just a fan and have to accept the decision that has been made for us and hope for the best, but I fear it was the wrong one yet again...

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this logic is fuging stupid

The everything doesn't happen overnight logic is stupid?

That is one reason Rivera should stay.

being handicapped by a fired GM is another reason he deserved another year.

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