Keenan Allen Pro Day Tommorow.

[panthers55]

God forbid Mike Mayock like many of us here didn't think much of Newton. Much less agreed with him at the time about Gabbert. Some of you act like you don't make mistakes at all. Mayock is often right than wrong. I'll take his word more seriously than any of you any given day.

Funny how Mayocks credibility is question with the old " Mayock thought Gabbert was better gaiz" argument. LOL man..

The point is that Mayock is right at times but also wrong. I threw that in so that we wouldn't have to hear why we should draft him because Mayock likes him. Of course I would take his word over mine but that is like saying I would take Jim Kramer over me when picking stocks. Doesn't mean he is right all the time or that we should accept his opinion as correct.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Yeah, with the slow 40 time, we might be able to move down, recoup a 3rd, and still get him. Which I would be happy with. If we're going receiver, Austin is at the top of my list then Allen slightly behind. I'm not all that jazzed on Cordarelle.

[sam_randallusa]

Just seen some of Keenan's pro day highlights and an interview from the local Greensboro channel 8 news.

The kid looked really good. Better than what I've read from some of the posts on here.

Didn't see Keenan made any body catches from the few highlights. All great hands grabbed and made an amazing one handed catch. Well worth the no.14 pick for sure.

I totally agree with you!

- Great weapon Cam

[panthers55]

I'm gonna see if I can link this NFLN piece on him in the OP if it comes available.

Interesting to note that three guys in this segment-including Mayock and Casserly, both respected guys-have clocked him at 4.55 on tape.

It'd be a real shame if he slipped and the rich got richer.

How much of that was post injury? Who is say he will be back 100%. You would think that Hogan, Gettis and Davis would give any Panther fan pause when assuming that all guys come back from knee injuries 100% with no problems.

He will slip because there are questions and you want better at 14 than maybes or he will eventually be 100%.

[carolina-chuck]

God forbid Mike Mayock like many of us here didn't think much of Newton. Much less agreed with him at the time about Gabbert. Some of you act like you don't make mistakes at all. Mayock is often right than wrong. I'll take his word more seriously than any of you any given day.

Funny how Mayocks credibility is question with the old " Mayock thought Gabbert was better gaiz" argument. LOL man..

You tell them Ivan!

The only person Ive ever trusted is Mayock and Mayock ONLY!

Hes often right than wrong. Take it or leave it.

[chknwing]

Just seen some of Keenan's pro day highlights and an interview from the local Greensboro channel 8 news.

The kid looked really good. Better than what I've read from some of the posts on here.

Didn't see Keenan made any body catches from the few highlights. All great hands grabbed and made an amazing one handed catch. Well worth the no.14 pick for sure.

only 1 one handed catch? Hopkins made 33 consecutively.

[carolina-chuck]

only 1 one handed catch? Hopkins made 33 consecutively.

WTF! I swear............ NVM.

I saw your name and quit.

[DaCityKats]

Wow this thread went to crap.I been on the Allen bus since last April and thought from watching him play he was around 4.5.while not impressed with his 40 today the muscles around the knee are not back at 100%.he plays a lot faster then what he ran today. Everything I read read also said he impressed with the field drills, but I got to say I am a tad disappointed in his 40 time.

[carolina-chuck]

[koolkatluke]

Wow this thread went to crap.I been on the Allen bus since last April and thought from watching him play he was around 4.5.while not impressed with his 40 today the muscles around the knee are not back at 100%.he plays a lot faster then what he ran today. Everything I read read also said he impressed with the field drills, but I got to say I am a tad disappointed in his 40 time.

That's all I'm saying. i like the player but that 40' time sucks and makes me have concerns.

[chknwing]

WTF! I swear............ NVM.

I saw your name and quit.

OMG someone doesnt agree with me, let me throw my hands up. Allen is damaged goods. I would hope carolina has learned their lesson about drafting players with pre-existing injuries. I prefer Hopkins over Allen and Austin. I just dont like him at #14, if they stick with pick 14, then they shouldnt go WR.

[poorboysrev]

You did nothing to dispute the fact that Allen's QB is utter poo compared to Hopkins'.....

Because that is obvious so why would I argue that? My point was that Hopkins would be playing with Cam who is much better than Boyd so why assume he couldn't excel? Growl's post I was answering said Keenan was superior to Hopkins in every way. My argument is that A)Hopkins didn't just have a major knee injury that is STILL a problem B) He had a huge, productive year, Allen did not. C) Hopkins is faster. Those are undisputable facts just like Maynard is a shitty QB. For some reason you think the shitty QB excuse trumps everything else...like health, performance, and speed. But no you're right all of my reasons are bullshit. It's fair to have concerns about Allen's knee especially since he was already not the fastest guy. If Allen was anyone else besides you and Growl's BFF then you would say the same thing,

[poorboysrev]

That's all I'm saying. i like the player but that 40' time sucks and makes me have concerns.

Right. How is it unreasonable to prefer for our number 14 pick to run faster than a 4.7 and not still have a bum knee? That's not bashing a guy, it's a valid concern. The Allen fanclub is sounding as bad as the Patterson club from a month back, well maybe not that bad.

If we are going to take a guy who had a bad injury then take Hunter. At least he's fully recovered. 6'4 and fast with the catch radius you pointed out earlier. Best blend of production and upside.

[C47]

Because that is obvious so why would I argue that? My point was that Hopkins would be playing with Cam who is much better than Boyd so why assume he couldn't excel? Growl's post I was answering said Keenan was superior to Hopkins in every way. My argument is that A)Hopkins didn't just have a major knee injury that is STILL a problem B) He had a huge, productive year, Allen did not. C) Hopkins is faster. Those are undisputable facts just like Maynard is a shitty QB. For some reason you think the shitty QB excuse trumps everything else...like health, performance, and speed. But no you're right all of my reasons are bullshit. It's fair to have concerns about Allen's knee especially since he was already not the fastest guy. If Allen was anyone else besides you and Growl's BFF then you would say the same thing,

Allen is far from my BFF dude. I hated him every year he was at Cal because he was the only threat they had against USC. Now I want him on my team because I know how talented he is as I've been watching him for three years now....