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Better panther peppers or Jenkins?

micnificent28

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Considering them both in their prime, I'd say they were neck and neck.  If I had to choose one on my team, I'll go with positional value and take Peppers.  Jenkins was most certainly not a one dimensional run stuffer though.

 

Considering the total body of work, Peppers runs away with it.  Aside from that one mysterious season, Peppers has pretty much been the epitome of consistency whereas Jenkins had a few years of kicking ass and then burned out.  Peppers makes me think of the guy who shows up to work every day, punches in his time card, does his job well, punches out and retires to go fly fishing and do other things he actually loves.  Jenkins was the rockstar who flashed brilliantly, went overboard on coke (or cheeseburgers), got disenfranchised with the business, and flamed out. 

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What you really forget is, that Rod was as shitty as they come when defending the run.

 

Surely Peppers is the best player of him and Jenkins. But when Jenkins was peaking he was just as good as Peppers. Sadly he was not peaking very long.

 

Jenkins is by a large margin the best DT who have ever played i Charlotte.

 

Heh you said basically the same thing I said but more succinctly.  I got distracted halfway through my post and came back to finish it and saw your post after mine loaded.  Great minds think alike :)

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What you really forget is, that Rod was as shitty as they come when defending the run.

Surely Peppers is the best player of him and Jenkins. But when Jenkins was peaking he was just as good as Peppers. Sadly he was not peaking very long.

Jenkins is by a large margin the best DT who have ever played i Charlotte.

He wasn't sh*tty against the run, he just wasn't as good against the run as he was against the pass.

He also wants a NT, he was a UT. So if you're going to blame someone for being sh*tty against the run, blame the nose tackle that lined up beside him.

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He also wants a NT, he was a UT. So if you're going to blame someone for being sh*tty against the run, blame the nose tackle that lined up beside him.

 

So are you telling me, that if a team has a lousy run D. Its only because of the NT and have nothing to do with the UT? Come on.

 

Coleman was a undersized DT who could rush the passer and nothing else.

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So are you telling me, that if a team has a lousy run D. Its only because of the NT and have nothing to do with the UT? Come on.

Coleman was a undersized DT who could rush the passer and nothing else.

No I'm saying that you can't blame the Raiders rushing defense on one player. That's essentially what you are implying.

And this isn't even worth arguing because any intelligent person would tell you that the 2X All Pro Coleman was better than Jenkins.

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No I'm saying that you can't blame the Raiders rushing defense on one player. That's essentially what you are implying.

And this isn't even worth arguing because any intelligent person would tell you that the 2X All Pro Coleman was better than Jenkins.

 

How in the world did you come to that sorry ass conclusion? I have not mentioned Raiders with one word. He got pushed around in the run game because of his size. He was a pure gap shooter and that was pretty much his game. 

 

Dude, you do know Jenkins was a 3x All pro right?

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No I'm saying that you can't blame the Raiders rushing defense on one player. That's essentially what you are implying.

And this isn't even worth arguing because any intelligent person would tell you that the 2X All Pro Coleman was better than Jenkins.

His argument has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Coleman was the main reason deshaun foster had so many career games vs the falcons...

When KJ was in his prime NO ONE RAN ON THE PANTHERS.

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How in the world did you come to that sorry ass conclusion? I have not mentioned Raiders with one word. He got pushed around in the run game because of his size. He was a pure gap shooter and that was pretty much his game. 

 

Dude, you do know Jenkins was a 3x All pro right?

 

Well... Coleman played for the Raiders, considering you didn't seem to know that I doubt your actually even know how Coleman impacted the game.

 

Yes, I'm aware that Jenkins was a 3X All Pro, I'm also aware that Jenkins  only had three solid years in his career due to injuries. Not to mention playing with Peppers, Rucker, Buckener, Wallace etc... elevated his game.

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His argument has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Coleman was the main reason deshaun foster had so many career games vs the falcons...

When KJ was in his prime NO ONE RAN ON THE PANTHERS.

 

Coleman was on the decline when he played for the Falcons. When he was with Oakland he was one of the premier defensive tackles in the NFL.

 

In order to be considered "great", you have to have had more than three good years.

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