How about those RED SOX!

[pantherphan96]

Sox win on an unearned run. Looks good. I hope to get to go on Thursday

 

Miley is either a decent 5/6 innings or just absolutely implodes. Bullpen looked great though.

[Goondal]

Made it to the game tonight, come on Sox!

[Goondal]

Made it to the game tonight, come on Sox!

well that flippin sucked

[pantherphan96]

Miley is either a decent 5/6 innings or just absolutely implodes. Bullpen looked great though.

 

this game is ugly.

[Goondal]

Wow so pretty much all of my worries from this offseason are now flaring weaknesses. This is just ugly

[pantherphan96]

our rotation and bullpen... ugh

[pantherphan96]

Excited to see how this team will look in a few years. Hoping to see a JBJ, Castillo, Betts outfield with Bogaerts/Moancada at SS/2B and Vasquez/Swihart at C. Also like to see how Owens and Rodriguez fare in the majors.

[Goondal]

A 3 and four 5s is great in poker but not for a rotation. Not sure what the hell they were thinking

[pantherphan96]

A 3 and four 5s is great in poker but not for a rotation. Not sure what the hell they were thinking

 

http://www.overthemonster.com/2015/5/11/8584451/red-sox-rotation-struggles-ground-balls

 

Basically they were trying to get by with a strong offense and induce lots and lots of ground balls and hope defense made up for the lack of pitching.

[Goondal]

http://www.overthemonster.com/2015/5/11/8584451/red-sox-rotation-struggles-ground-balls

Basically they were trying to get by with a strong offense and induce lots and lots of ground balls and hope defense made up for the lack of pitching.

remember the year they over valued defense in a quest for "run prevention?" Every time they try to get cute they screw it up.

Plus they did not have a strong offense. They barely scored six hundred runs last season. The only major improvement was Hanley, who is great but he is not worth three hundred runs. That means the rest has to come from improvement from those on the roster. A bunch of the guys are at the point where the same production is a win but regression is more likely. Xander, Castillo, and, Betts are the only ones where dramatic improvement was realistic.

So basically they were betting on an injury plagued psuedo-star to stay healthy, three youngsters to have break out years, and a bunch of scrubs to pitch over their heads. That is not an acceptable strategy when you spend as much money and prospects as they did this winter.

[pantherphan96]

remember the year they over valued defense in a quest for "run prevention?" Every time they try to get cute they screw it up.

Plus they did not have a strong offense. They barely scored six hundred runs last season. The only major improvement was Hanley, who is great but he is not worth three hundred runs. That means the rest has to come from improvement from those on the roster. A bunch of the guys are at the point where the same production is a win but regression is more likely. Xander, Castillo, and, Betts are the only ones where dramatic improvement was realistic.

So basically they were betting on an injury plagued psuedo-star to stay healthy, three youngsters to have break out years, and a bunch of scrubs to pitch over their heads. That is not an acceptable strategy when you spend as much money and prospects as they did this winter.

 

Agreed, but Panda was supposed to be a major improvement over Middlebrooks, they were counting on a healthy Pedey, and with Castillo/Betts improving majorly. Definitely not working so far. Wish we would go back to focus on developing minor league talent over splurging on mediocre 30+ year old journeyman players and foreign prospects.

[Goondal]

Agreed, but Panda was supposed to be a major improvement over Middlebrooks, they were counting on a healthy Pedey, and with Castillo/Betts improving majorly. Definitely not working so far. Wish we would go back to focus on developing minor league talent over splurging on mediocre 30+ year old journeyman players and foreign prospects.

In the last five seasons 2011 was the only time Panda topped 16 HR or .800 OPS. If that is a red flag to a mere fantasy baseball player like myself then the start gurus should have seen this coming a mile away.

Offensively Panda is not even comparable to such players as Adam Laroche yet we had no problem paying him 50% more than Laroche makes. I still cannot fathom what they were thinking there.

I agree on developing prospects, our guys seem to hit a low percentage of the time.

[Goondal]

Masterson to the DL. Addition by subtraction?

[*FreeFua*]

It's no secret the Angels are desperate for a LF, there's not much available in mid may... outside of Revere (who I don't want) are the Sox done with JBJ?

I saw an article today that said the Mariners rejected a JBJ for Furbursh deal this past offseason. JBJ's value couldn't be lower, I'd love to give him a shot, at the very least he's a stud defensively