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John Fox Talks to PK about PM and Other Stuff

NanuqoftheNorth

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Too bad, he presents himself very well and it is a vast improvement over the canned responses we endured for the better part of a decade.

Glad to see him doing well. His success in Denver suggests given a decent GM, Fox could have been much more successful here.

 

Maybe, but how much of that is Manning?  I mean, true, he found success kind of before him, but we saw that if you give Fox a competent QB he could do well... he just seemed to flail and fail at developing young talent on offense entirely (which isn't ONLY his fault)

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Maybe, but how much of that is Manning?  I mean, true, he found success kind of before him, but we saw that if you give Fox a competent QB he could do well... he just seemed to flail and fail at developing young talent on offense entirely (which isn't ONLY his fault)

I agree with both of you. Fox is known for having a great defensive mind, but never for his brilliant offensive schemes. Likely because he doesn't have any.

There is no way to know, but I find it hard to believe Dave Gettleman wouldn't have had a major positive impact on Fox'a success in Carolina had he been GM instead of Marty. Good management makes a big difference.

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I agree with both of you. Fox is known for having a great defensive mind, but never for his brilliant offensive schemes.

There is no way to know, but I find it hard to believe Dave Gettleman wouldn't have had a major positive impact on Fox'a success in Carolina had been GM instead of Marty. Good management makes a big difference.

 

True, but would Fox have wanted Cam?  It's so hard to tell.

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True, but would Fox have wanted Cam?  It's so hard to tell.

I don't think it was John Fox's idea to bring in Manning. He always claimed all he needed was a "game manager" while in Carolina.

I suspect John Elway gave Fox the Bronco's offensive vision and Fox did a lot of head nodding, with minimal input.

If Fox had coached in Carolina under DG, I suspect there would have been a similar dynamic.

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