First QB to go in the draft?

[stirs]

I agree to a certain extent. However, defenses are a factor in how quarterbacks perform. Bortles played in a softer conference, and his stats and perormance were padded by that fact. No way he goes in the first, calling it right now.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/02/bortles-could-be-climbing-up-the-board/

[davos]

1- Bridgewater

2- Bortles 

3- Hundley

4- Carr

5- Manziel

 

Manziel will probably go ahead of Hundley and Carr but I think they're more NFL caliber and guys you can build around.  Manziel for some reason screams a Locker-esque career.  I also keep seeing this Brett Smith name from Wyoming pop up but don't know anything about him.  

 

[davos]

Manziel reminds me a Locker when Locker was his best outside of the pocket.

 

And we see how Locker did

 

Not kidding, I did not see your post when I made my Locker comparison.  He'll probably end up with the Jags haha 

[Mr. Scot]

Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger probably would have been in this argument if not for injuries.

 

Someone could pick one of them in a later round and have a decent young QB in a few years.

[Evengelion]

Bridgewater by a long shot. The Texans won't even pay much attention to Manziel during the interview process. People make Manziel seem like he's the first QB ever who knew how to run with a football and that he's going to revolutionize the NFL. I will say Manziel's 40 time won't be much more than .04 than Bridgewater. Bridgewater was a dual threat QB in high school and as a freshman at louisville he asked his coach to play him WR. The reason Bridgewater is not running all over the place is that he's a filthy accurate passer and also he ended up with the right coaching staff that didn't wanna run him to the ground for their own benefit.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Bridgewater by a long shot. The Texans won't even pay much attention to Manziel during the interview process. People make Manziel seem like he's the first QB ever who knew how to run with a football and that he's going to revolutionize the NFL. I will say Manziel's 40 time won't be much more than .004 than Bridgewater. Bridgewater was a dual threat QB in high school and as a freshman at louisville he asked his coach to play him WR. The reason Bridgewater is not running all over the place is that he's a filthy accurate passer and also he ended up with the right coaching staff that didn't wanna run him to the ground for their own benefit.

 

Depends on how they think.

 

If they think long-term success, they'll take Bridgewater.

 

If they think flash / ticket sales / hometown boy, they'll take Manziel.

 

I'd be shocked if they went that route, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Evengelion]

Depends on how they think.

 

If they think long-term success, they'll take Bridgewater.

 

If they think flash / ticket sales / hometown boy, they'll take Manziel.

 

I'd be shocked if they went that route, but stranger things have happened.

 

I think the Texans organization is one good QB away from recapturing the division throne so the ticket sale will probably come through winning. I agree with you, I doubt Obrien would go the ticket selling route.

[Mr. Scot]

I think the Texans organization is one good QB away from recapturing the division throne so the ticket sale will probably come through winning. I agree with you, I doubt Obrien would go the ticket selling route.

 

Lot of people would tell you a healthy Schaub is a good QB.

 

Me?  I've never really been that big a Schaub fan.  Always found him a little overrated.

 

[stirs]

O Brien was with the Pats for a good while.  Doubt he even considers Manziel.  It will come down to Bridgewater or Bortles

[Evengelion]

Lot of people would tell you a healthy Schaub is a good QB.

 

Me?  I've never really been that big a Schaub fan.  Always found him a little overrated.

 

I was kind of shock that he failed this year, just when they got Hopkins to complement Andre Johnson. Anyway, like Kolb, there is a reason he was never high on anybody's radar from college. He made his money because he had some good performances as backup for the Falcons when Vick got injured. I believe that in this league for you to compete long term you gotta have that 1st round talent, especially at the QB position. Not that you can't find your diamond in the rough like a Russell Wilson but a lot of those late rounders tend to be just flash. Especially when they're playing with house money.

[Mr. Scot]

O Brien was with the Pats for a good while.  Doubt he even considers Manziel.  It will come down to Bridgewater or Bortles

 

Wonder if he'd trade for Ryan Mallett.

 

There's talk McDaniels might go that route if he got the Browns job.

[stirs]

Wonder if he'd trade for Ryan Mallett.

 

There's talk McDaniels might go that route if he got the Browns job.

 

Trading with the mad scientist normally works out good for the mad scientist.  Mallett might be better however than anything coming out this year

 

[Mr. Scot]

I was kind of shock that he failed this year, just when they got Hopkins to complement Andre Johnson. Anyway, like Kolb, there is a reason he was never high on anybody's radar from college. He made his money because he had some good performances as backup for the Falcons when Vick got injured. I believe that in this league for you to compete long term you gotta have that 1st round talent, especially at the QB position. Not that you can't find your diamond in the rough like a Russell Wilson but a lot of those late rounders tend to be just flash. Especially when they're playing with house money.

 

A lot of backup guys win starting jobs off of one or two decent performances in relief.

 

Matt Flynn, Kevin Kolb, Doug Johnson, Scott Mitchell, A J Feeley...the list goes on.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Trading with the mad scientist normally works out good for the mad scientist.  Mallett might be better however than anything coming out this year

 

 

Possible.  Probably depends a lot on whether he's grown up some from his college years when he was a bit of a jerk.

 

Mallett was a pretty decent passer, mind you, but he was also so slow footed that he made Dan Marino look like Randall Cunningham.