While Newton struggles against top passing defenses, Kaepernick is worse

[frash.exe]

Any seahawk fans lurking?

How do you put up with this?

[IGSaint]

Lol.  I see a lot of similarities with panther and seahawks fans. 

 

It is fortunate though, that we Niner fans have King Kaepernick leading our monarch of excellence.

 

Allow me to make the mental transition towards clarity on this subject, more incomplex for you.

 

King Kaepernick - 3-1

Wilson - 1-1

Newton - 0

 

 

Lol at you drawing a comparison between panthers and seahawk fans while you niner fans(many of which are bandwagon) are running away with 1st place for most arrogant fan base. 

[jarhead]

I might add the above illustration of advanced statistics does not take into the fact that,

 

1. Newton has 48 games of experience

 

2. Kaepernick has 26.

 

In conclusion Kaepernick was statistically better than Newton this season.

 

Playoffs, maybe?

 

Newton -- 0

King Kaepernick - 3-1

 

I rest my case your honor.

You 49 fans are acting as though the game is being played on the Huddle Forum when actually it is Sunday at 1PM . It is pretty obvious that your fan base represented here is trying to reassure themselves that you should win because Crabtree is back ya ya ya,,,,yak yak yak, I hate to burst your bubble but even with the return of your superstars you should have lost to Atlanta at home and your offense sputtered against Greenbay when they were having to pull fans out of the stands to fill in on defense.

 

This game will be won on Sunday by the team that executes its game plan, makes fewest mistakes, and makes big plays.

[panthers55]

Lol - what QBs don't do worse on the road and better at home?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Is that your argument? LMAO!

 

But the problem for Kaepernick is he sucks at home and away with good defenses.  Against poor defenses he is very good at home and away like he was against Green Bay.  So the issue isn't just home and away but good defenses and bad.  The reason home is a big issue is that Cam may be bad against good defenses on the road, he is actually much better at home.

 

So lets summarize since you appear to be slow.

 

Kaepernick- bad against all good passing defenses 

 

Cam- bad against good defenses on the road but good at home.

 

Since we are at home, Cam will be his usual good and Kap will be his usual bad.

 

Easy really.........

[KingKaepernick]

Lol at you drawing a comparison between panthers and seahawk fans while you niner fans(many of which are bandwagon) are running away with 1st place for most arrogant fan base. 

 

You cannot bandwagon true excellence my friend.  It is only in the fiery depths of mediocrity and with an ephemeral level of success, do bandwagoners have the opportunity to climb aboard an NFL franchise. 

 

One with such a rich history of excellence, like the 49er Monarch, does not breed these such creatures.

[jarhead]

You cannot bandwagon true excellence my friend.  It is only in the fiery depths of mediocrity and with a ephemeral level of success, do bandwagoners have the opportunity to climb aboard an NFL franchise. 

 

One with such a rich history of excellence, like the 49er Monarch, does not breed these such creatures.

[panthers55]

Nobody is ignoring the panthers are playing at home.  But that fact doesnt matter to the 49ers, as they play just as well on the road as they do at home, well, except in seattle. 

 

As far as top defenses on the road or at home, carolina has lost at home to a top defense already, so they are not infallible.  This will be a close 1 score type game.

Just ignore the facts here as if they don't matter.  Read the article.  Against teams in the top 16 in defensive QBR- your team overall is 3-4 that is a losing record.  On the road they are 1-2.

 

Under what kind of delusional world is that a winning record.  You must be confusing Carolina with the 49ers since the Panthers have a winning record against good defenses not the other way around.

 

 

We did lose to Seattle the first game that is true.  And I won't do what you did which is make excuses about why we lost.  It doesn't matter.  No one said we are infallible simply we will be better Sunday.  It wil be a close game, I just think that Cam has shown that if you have one drive with 2 minutes left to win he is a much better option than Kaepernick.  Even the talking heads agree with that.

[QueensKing]

I might add the above illustration of advanced statistics does not take into the fact that,

 

1. Newton has 48 games of experience

 

2. Kaepernick has 26.

 

In conclusion Kaepernick was statistically better than Newton this season.

 

Playoffs, maybe?

 

Newton -- 0

King Kaepernick - 3-1

 

I rest my case your honor.

 

Kap is 26.  Cam is 24.  Cam built it ground up, Kap renovated. 

[MadHatter]

Lol. I see a lot of similarities with panther and seahawks fans.

It is fortunate though, that we Niner fans have King Kaepernick leading our monarch of excellence.

Allow me to make the mental transition towards clarity on this subject, more incomplex for you.

King Kaepernick - 3-1

Wilson - 1-1

Newton - 0

Yep...similarity is that we both beat that Niners ass

[Heiisenberg]

Just ignore the facts here as if they don't matter.  Read the article.  Against teams in the top 16 in defensive QBR- your team overall is 3-4 that is a losing record.  On the road they are 1-3.

 

Under what kind of delusional world is that a winning record.  You must be confusing Carolina with the 49ers since the Panthers have a winning record against good defenses not the other way around.

 

 

We did lose to Seattle the first game that is true.  And I won't do what you did which is make excuses about why we lost.  It doesn't matter.  No one said we are infallible simply we will be better Sunday.  It wil be a close game, I just think that Cam has shown that if you have one drive with 2 minutes left to win he is a much better option than Kaepernick.  Even the talking heads agree with that.

 

Well this is the first time anyone's brought up the tailored stat of going against the top 16 defensive QBR.  Previously it was the top 10 defenses in yards per game, but you like top 16 in defensive QBR, hey choose whichever stat illustrates your point best.

 

Cam has zero, none, no experience in the playoffs, and this entire 49ers team has.  there, i told you something the 49ers are more proven at, just like you showed me a stat where the panthers are more proven at.

 

It doesnt matter what the talking heads say, i dont get why the panther fans here are so butthurt over what talking heads say on the 49ers being the favorite, but eat it up when they say they like cam more. I've seen Kaepernick make excellent decisions, perfect throws, and game winning plays with both his arm and feet.  Ive also seen him struggle, thats the nature of the game. Cam also has good and bad plays, good and bad games.   I think theyre both capable of making the big play and laying an egg, because theyve both done it this year.  Neither of these defenses is intimidated by anyone so that wont be a factor.    I can only say that Kap has been on a roll lately, playing better and more consistent, the 49ers offense is better, and more consistent, and is going to be having 2 stars that really didnt do anything in week 10.   

 

You think your guy will just play better, fine.  I am certainly entitled to that opinion too.   My guy has stepped up in the playoffs so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

[WarDamnPanthers]

I actually think the difference in this game is which QB does the best job on broken plays.

Be it with their arms or feet.

I like my chances with Cam.

 

Agreed. Cam has shown great maturity this year. He's going to show up like a man on Sunday.

[CRA]

Vernon Davis played 22 snaps. Aldon played 12.

They're both healthy and playing every snap this weekend.

And if Bowman holds on to that INT, it's game over.

You guys won by 1 lousy point last time without our pro-bowl WR. The 49ers also dropped 5 of 21 aimed passes that day.

Give me a break. If you can't admit that you won by a point and that could have easily been a loss, or that at the very least we are going to be a much better team this time around, you are delusionsal. I'm not even saying we win, I'm saying we're vastly improved on offense now. You say Crabtree doesn't help because of your front 4 not letting Kap get to his first read? I say it's the exact opposite. Crabtree can get open way better than Boldin, so when the pressure comes he has a much better outlet to go to on his first read.

We won't drop 5 passes like last time.

We have our pro-bowl receiver back.

We have one of the top 3 TE's in the game healthy.

We have our record setting OLB healthy and mentally in the game.

To discount all of that because you won by a point last time is just stupid.

And if Bowman?

If and buts.....problem is you only apply that to San Fran. If Captain would have held into his potential INT of Kapernick, if our kicker didn't randomly kick a easy FG into the snappers back, etc. If you play that game you have to go both ways....lots of stuff Carolina had they should of capitalized on too

and again, the biggest singular difference in this and last game isn't Crabtree. It is the one the media doesn't talk about......the fact we aren't randomly having a DT start at RG for the first time bc of injuries . That happened last time.

[panthers55]

Well this is the first time anyone's brought up the tailored stat of going against the top 16 defensive QBR.  Previously it was the top 10 defenses in yards per game, but you like top 16 in defensive QBR, hey choose whichever stat illustrates your point best.

 

Cam has zero, none, no experience in the playoffs, and this entire 49ers team has.  there, i told you something the 49ers are more proven at, just like you showed me a stat where the panthers are more proven at.

 

It doesnt matter what the talking heads say, i dont get why the panther fans here are so butthurt over what talking heads say on the 49ers being the favorite, but eat it up when they say they like cam more. I've seen Kaepernick make excellent decisions, perfect throws, and game winning plays with both his arm and feet.  Ive also seen him struggle, thats the nature of the game. Cam also has good and bad plays, good and bad games.   I think theyre both capable of making the big play and laying an egg, because theyve both done it this year.  Neither of these defenses is intimidated by anyone so that wont be a factor.    I can only say that Kap has been on a roll lately, playing better and more consistent, the 49ers offense is better, and more consistent, and is going to be having 2 stars that really didnt do anything in week 10.   

 

You think your guy will just play better, fine.  I am certainly entitled to that opinion too.   My guy has stepped up in the playoffs so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

That stat has been used by the author of the article for a long time.  Obviously it is the first time you saw or heard of it.  Truth is it applies to both of them equally and isn't my stat.

 

As for playoff experience ours started against New Orleans at home a few weeks ago like yours did against Arizona.  Newton has won on every big stage including a National championship twice. He gets bigger in big games he doesn't shrink.

 

I have no problem with the 49ers being favored.  Unless they determine the winner and not on the field.  We have been doubted all year, it just makes it sweeter when we win.

 

If your offense used progressions and all three receivers at once instead of 1 receiver and 2 decoys it might matter that they were all back. See the other article posted under 1 read Kaepernick.

 

You and most everyone else will see that we are real. We already know it.

[Heiisenberg]

That stat has been used by the author of the article for a long time.  Obviously it is the first time you saw or heard of it.  Truth is it applies to both of them equally and isn't my stat.

 

As for playoff experience ours started against New Orleans at home a few weeks ago like yours did against Arizona.  Newton has won on every big stage including a National championship twice. He gets bigger in big games he doesn't shrink.

 

I have no problem with the 49ers being favored.  Unless they determine the winner and not on the field.  We have been doubted all year, it just makes it sweeter when we win.

 

If your offense used progressions and all three receivers at once instead of 1 receiver and 2 decoys it might matter that they were all back. See the other article posted under 1 read Kaepernick.

 

You and most everyone else will see that we are real. We already know it.

 

I already know carolina is real. So are the 49ers.