Here you go Zod: exact number of cam scrambles for first downs

[Zod]

That is such a nonsequitor. Just because he scrambled 16 times for first down out of a total of 20 per game or over 300 first downs hardly means anything about Shula. And just because he scrambled for a first down didn't mean he scored any points. The reality is that he ran for 6 TDs and some of those were scripted by Shula and some were Newton innovating.

Sure Cam was a big part of the offense but to say that those scrambles proves anything about Shula stretches the bounds of of any kind of reality. I know you want to discredit him but that argument wouldn't hold water in an elementary school debate.

And yet you still tried to refute it... Poorly.

:)

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[footballisasport]

Now if the Panthers can get those who get paid to run the ball to do the same and fans to demand Cam play the role of a QB more and not an RB or FB, then this team would be  a force to reckoned with.

[hdevonxz]

Who Is this guy and how long did he spend in front of a TV for these stats lol

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[Evengelion]

 

Is it a coincidence that mobile QBs top the list?

[KillerKat]

I told posters Cam has made Shula

[buzzcity]

I thought our running game was decent throughout the year.  Without the threat of WRs that can get open, opposing defenses just focus on stopping our RBs.  We desperately need some balance to open the running game up.  JStew and DWill aren't going anywhere next season so we gotta spread the D.

[panthers55]

I told posters Cam has made Shula

Quarterbacks make or break OCs as well as head coaches. That is hardly news.  What team has a crappy quarterback statistically and yet put up big numbers on offense this year??

[FourthWard]

[Toundra]

I would love to see a game, just one with Cam with the full control of our offense, no OC.

Or more simple a 100% no huddle offense.

 

[SgtJoo]

Can't be. Shula is an excellent OC. Right?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

 

Little from column A, little from column B.

 

It's somewhere in between.

[Zod]

Quarterbacks make or break OCs as well as head coaches. That is hardly news.  What team has a crappy quarterback statistically and yet put up big numbers on offense this year??

 

Its news when the QB makes the OC when everthing the OC plans breaks down and the the biggest plays of the game are improvised, having zero to do with the OC.

[panthers55]

Its news when the QB makes the OC when everthing the OC plans breaks down and the the biggest plays of the game are improvised, having zero to do with the OC.

Given that both Cam and Shula said that they collaborate together and run the plays that Cam are most comfortable with and that Cam has a lot of say in the gameolanning your assumptions cant be correct. Secondly when a team runs almost 1000 plays a season even if 50;are improvised that leaves 95% scripted.

There are quarterbacks like Russell Wilson who improvise a lot more than Cam. I wonder if their OC gets the same undeserved criticism. They are 17th in total yards.

[Zod]

Yeah, those frantic scrambles for first downs after eluding 4 lineman and 2 linebackers.... completely planned.

 

 

:)

[panthers55]

Yeah, those frantic scrambles for first downs after eluding 4 lineman and 2 linebackers.... completely planned.

 

 

:)

And the other 995 plays run as they were called were completely improvised.