Tyler Vagyler Mock Draft

[IamSoClutch]

I'm creaming over the first two picks

[MedellinHeel]

The second tier WRs are way better than 2nd tier OL

 

We seem to have a different understanding of tiers. 

 

1st tier - Sure fire studs, a few pro bowls, etc

 

2nd tier - Good - Solid starter

 

3rd tier - Average - slightly below average starter / journeyman 

 

4th tier - Backup player / special teams 

[TylerVagyler]

We seem to have a different understanding of tiers.

1st tier - Sure fire studs, a few pro bowls, etc

2nd tier - Good - Solid starter

3rd tier - Average - slightly below average starter / journeyman

4th tier - Backup player / special teams

That doesn't change my previous statement

[MedellinHeel]

That doesn't change my previous statement

 

Um yes it does. 

 

You said the tier 2 WRs / CBs are way better than the tier 2 OTs. 

 

Tier 2 is talent level based across the board regardless of positions. For your statement to be right, you would have to compare tier 2 WRs / CBs to tier 3 or 4 OTs. 

 

So again we have a different understanding of "tiers". 

[BigSyke]

get ethan westbrook if you want a late de....

[Luke59foLife]

I'd love it. Surely out of that group we'll get at least three starters on offense beyond this season.

[TylerVagyler]

Um yes it does. 

 

You said the tier 2 WRs / CBs are way better than the tier 2 OTs. 

 

Tier 2 is talent level based across the board regardless of positions. For your statement to be right, you would have to compare tier 2 WRs / CBs to tier 3 or 4 OTs. 

 

So again we have a different understanding of "tiers". 

 

I don't care how you define "tiers". My point is, at pick 28 there will be more value at WR or CB than OT.

 

Robinson

Matthews

Lewan

Martin

 

Those are the only tackles I would take in the first round.

 

Cyrus

Moses

Richardson

Bitonio

 

Those are the tackles I would take in round 2. I know everyone around here has a boner for Turner but I wouldn't take him until the third when you consider what value is there at other positions. ASJ or Niklas could be there along with a handful of solid DBs (McGill, SJB, Breeland, Bailey, Bucannon etc). In this mock I was assuming that the 4 OTs above were already gone. 

 

Watkins

Evans

Lee

Cooks

Beckham

Matthews

Benjamin

 

All the WRs I would take at 28. There is a chance 2-3 of those guys could be there. Meanwhile, none of my 1st round tackles will be there. 

 

So you can define "tier" how ever you want but when you look at what will be available at our pick the most value (while going along with needs) will most likely be at WR. 

[carolina-chuck]

Not sure if OBJ will be there at 28 anymore. His stock his rising by the sec.

Also, if Philly chooses not to go defense, I cant see Chip passing up on OBJ.

[TylerVagyler]

Not sure if OBJ will be there at 28 anymore. His stock his rising by the sec.

Also, if Philly chooses not to go defense, I cant see Chip passing up on OBJ.

 

Jets, Eagles, Chiefs will all likely go WR which means Lee, OBJ, Cooks will be the best 3 available for those teams.

 

Something that could save us is Zack Martin dropping to the Chiefs (they lost their entire OL). 

 

It'll be interesting to see how the WRs fall in the first round. The 3 listed above could do in any order. 

[carolina-chuck]

Jets, Eagles, Chiefs will all likely go WR which means Lee, OBJ, Cooks will be the best 3 available for those teams.

Something that could save us is Zack Martin dropping to the Chiefs (they lost their entire OL).

It'll be interesting to see how the WRs fall in the first round. The 3 listed above could do in any order.

True, Chiefs could go OL.

Jets will get whoever they want; maybe a TE to help open the middle.

I dont believe that the Eagles will take Lee or OBJ. I really think that we have a better shot at Lee than OBJ at 28.

[MedellinHeel]

I don't care how you define "tiers". My point is, at pick 28 there will be more value at WR or CB than OT.

 

Robinson

Matthews

Lewan

Martin

 

Those are the only tackles I would take in the first round.

 

Cyrus

Moses

Richardson

Bitonio

 

Those are the tackles I would take in round 2. I know everyone around here has a boner for Turner but I wouldn't take him until the third when you consider what value is there at other positions. ASJ or Niklas could be there along with a handful of solid DBs (McGill, SJB, Breeland, Bailey, Bucannon etc). In this mock I was assuming that the 4 OTs above were already gone. 

 

Watkins

Evans

Lee

Cooks

Beckham

Matthews

Benjamin

 

All the WRs I would take at 28. There is a chance 2-3 of those guys could be there. Meanwhile, none of my 1st round tackles will be there. 

 

So you can define "tier" how ever you want but when you look at what will be available at our pick the most value (while going along with needs) will most likely be at WR. 

 

I dont recall asking you if you care how I define tiers. I made an observation that we obviously view tiers differently. In which you replied or insinuated that it wasn't the case and that your statement still applied. For which I had to break it down and show you how that was not the case. 

 

As for your "value" claim, you believe all those WRs will be sure fire studs and pro bowlers? The only sure fire studs / tier 1 WRs in this draft imo are Watkins and Evans. 

 

All the rest have question marks and concerns which drops them to tier 2 as I see it, the same with all the tier 2 OTs. 

 

Like I said, you obviously overvalue all those WRs and undervalue the OTs in relation to how I view them. 

 

As for which one of us is right, we will have to bump this thread midway through next season. 

[Shermdog]

Nice draft. Would make me happy.

[Jackofalltrades]

I'd scream for joy if we pulled that off.

[saX man]

This would be a great pull to put some weapons in our arsenal.  

 

I don't know much about these Tennessee linemen but a lot of peeps keep mocking them to us.

 

I was thinking of doing one with 1-Amaro | 2-Matthews | 3-Latimer; no o-line help but it'd for sure put some power into this offense.