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Bryce a bust? Maybe. But what if he's that edge case from 40 years ago?

Damn pregame production teams have got their marching orders on Bryce.

It's too early to consider moving on from Canales, but replacing Bryce is long overdue. Bryce believers say that he thrives in improvising, but so far we've seen nothing but disaster when he improvises (interceptions, fumbles). I think that's why Canales is telling him to stop playing hero ball. With that out the window, he doesn't have the skills or abilities to compensate. I like their madden analogy. It perfectly explains Bryce.

I like to reverse the comparisons. could Bryce young survive in the mid 80s nfl? not career wise, like physically.

It couldn't look worse. My concern is that if we stick with Bryce it probably means another full reset is coming. We gotta give Canales and Morgan a chance because we're going to be shopping in the garbage bin again if we replace them. Let's give them every chance we can before we go down to the convenience store and buy more scratch off lottery ticket ass hires.

I keep saying it, but this offense would look like damn near Greatest Show on Turf if they handed the keys to Andy.

What exactly has scourton done exactly

The Panthers are just an afterthought at this point. Just a run of the mill bottom feeder. There's just nothing interesting to cover from a national standpoint.

That's why I'm advocating for looking everywhere for potential upgrades. Free agency, trade market, draft. We have a bust of a starter and an over the hill pushing 40 backup. We need QBs. Multiple QBs. Leave no stone unturned. We got ourselves into this mess going all in on a savior.

Oh not at all. But that was definitely how he was presented and how he (at least partly) sold himself. you don’t just get to “hand it to the haters” and get to spend another first rounder.

Kudos to him for recognizing what has been plainly obvious to anyone that has watched the Panthers offense.

gee, its almost like we have been saying that for 3 years now, THE LITTLE DUDE CANNOT SEE THE FIELD couple that with the lack of arm strength and ask yourself how the fug did this midget go #1?

The problem is many, many other teams have this issue and the draft bust rate is as high as ever. Cam Ward looks worse than Bryce did his rookie year and he just went #1 overall. We saw how bad our other QB's were in the preseason. Put in Hooker, sure okay he might run a little more, but we are still getting blown out and our WR's still won't get the ball.

Agreed. Just look at the bengals

Switch back to the 4-3. If for no other reason than historically we have been better able to find players that fit the scheme more ideally. Build the lines on both sides. Yes, taking O and D linemen is not splashy. It pays off in the long run. If there is not a qb that has the potential to be the one, don't spend premium picks just to say we drafted a franchise qb. Bring in a vet qb that is capable and ready to play on day 1. Doesn't matter if Young is being kept, or there is a rookie being drafted. No more Daltons. Develop a team identity, culture and recognize there is a timeline and plan to getting back on track. Don't be fooled into thinking a good start or a better than expected year means we are 1 player away. We are not 1 player away. Patience, and stick to the plan. Be judicious on trading picks. Teams that are contenders can trade picks around, because they are good enough to absorb the loss of potential players for immediate gain. That is not us.

How are we going to save Shedeur, when we can't even save ourselves?

Is he a personnel guy? That would be interesting to try

Like I said, russ deserves this purgatory.

If this draft class turns out to be decent. Dan should get canned and Tillis promoted. (since no real GMs would be likely to interview here.)

Wilson, Shadeur, and Pickett. Nightmare blunt rotation

Sure looked like it was trending that way and that Browns draft room absolutely did not look like the people in that room made the call to draft him. Rich Eisen even called it out live. LOL

I would rather give Hooker a long contract to start and lop off my penis before going after Sanders.

Clearly we are being punished by a higher power. I merely say the stars are aligned for that nightmare.

He might have gone undrafted if it weren't for the Browns being perpetually stupid. (I realize the Panthers are perpetually stupid too, but we weren't in the QB market....I mean, we should have been, but still.)