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Narratives change real fast because of how fast information travels these days and the need to generate clicks. People said the Panthers were a great place for him to land but just because it was said doesn't make it true. Was that true? Did we have an All-star staff? Did we have a good front office? Did we surround him with talent? Could the defense carry the load? You have to squirt really hard to think it was just a bad rookie QB stinking it up all by his lonesome. Saying the worst football teams have bad QB's is just low handing fruit. It's the easiest thing to grab onto. It could also be teams that have a bad coaching staff or no talent to surrounding the QB or a horrible front office. It can also be a horrible QB. To this day I think that T-Law going to the Jags might have ruined his career because of Urban Meyer. I don't agree at all that Bryce's only good game of his entire career was against the Falcons. Week 16 against the Cards (which is one of those last 3 games we mentioned) 36-30 OT win. Threw 3 TD's Week 12 against KC 30-27 loss but Bryce went 24 of 35 for 263 yrds. It was Mahomes magic that got us. Week 10 against the Bucs 298 yards in a close game with a passing TD and a running TD. We even had those flashes of what he could be in 2023 against the Packers, the 95-yard game winning drive vs the Falcons, or how he outplayed CJ Shroud with the win over the Texans. Especially in this respect you're not being truthful.

It's wild but there have been people placing most of the blame on Renfrow.

Right now he’s a little more advanced Anthony Richardson.

Fuggin' Young is gonna have half the wideouts on IR before long

Ekwonu - LP (illness) A. Evans - LP (illness) Hunt - FP (foot) P. Jones - LP (ankle) Lewis - FP (shoulder/ankle) Renfrow - LP (ribs) Robinson - FP (groin) Wharton - DNP (hamstring) That’s what a hospital ball will do….

I'll take it

probably more Josh Allen than Cam in terms of college comps

Just let him be him. I think folks have forgotten how utterly dominant Cam was. Auburn was unranked at the beginning of the season. They had minimal NFL talent on that roster. Cam still won a Heisman and carried them to an SEC championship and national championship. Sellers isn't that. Not at this stage. Cam had what has to be considered one of the greatest college seasons ever.

He got a ways to go to catch Cam the collegiate passer. Gonna be hard to develop a lot this year you would think given the SC OL so to an extent, he seems to potentially be like some other Gamecocks that have entered the draft recently. Physical tools make you really want the guy…..no one really close that could come out have near the tools

Has to show a lot more to be a top pick. I like him but nothing special so far

He should be under consideration absolutely. But there's a whole lot of time between now and the draft and there will be QB's who rise and fall.

Well they can play that game all they like. The fact is they didn’t make a single half of an attempt to bring in a halfway competent backup. They made the bed. Now it’s time to sleep in it. They made this Bryce or bust and now it’s bust.

Dave would have the excuse/logic that he hasn’t been able to bring a QB that fits his O. That was the prior HCs QB and it got that HC fired with quickness. Can’t expect Dave to win this year without a QB if he went 5-12. Morgan tied Bryce to him by not dealing him. Be horrible this year and Dave isn’t getting more time most likely

That's a serious word salad. Anywho. Both Justin Fields and Daniel Jones have always had something Bryce Young does not possess. The necessary physical tools.

What it feels like is a horrible source reality. What a person sees is a horrible source for reality. Stats can be easily misunderstood because because they are interpretive and contextual. Very large data sets with dozens more more connected variables are difficult to deal with and understand correctly. Throw in confirmation bias, abstraction, emotions and the way human brains are wired make it really easy to roll with eye tests and intuition. The negativity for Bryce was really high and most were ready to trade that asset for peanuts until the second half of last year when he began to play much, much better. Hope sprang eternal. The Saints game last year. Going toe to toe and almost beating the two teams who went to the Superbowl last year. Beating the Falcons when the Falcons had everything to play for. Haters started adjusting their tune. Fan and media starting saying it looks like Carolina has found their franchise QB. The real answer was and is, maybe. If he plays great on Sunday the anti-Bryce crowd will find other excuses or say it's only one game. If he plays horrible, it'll be more of the "I told you so. I knew it before he was drafted." (which is beyond stupid since there there is not an actual way to know if a player will be successful in the NFL or not.) I'll leave with a simple example. Of the initial list of incompletions due to WR error, Jarod Goff has 0. He was 31 for 39 at an almost 80% completion percentage. His WR's much has balled out. Except when you add the facts that only 11 of those passes were to WRs. 14 were to RB's and 6 to the TE. Gibbs has 10 of those receptions and he's elite so that explains why we shouldn't put much stock into this stat. But then we see that Gibbs also set an NFL record with the least number of yards (31) for any player with at least 10 receptions in a game. Fun stuff! Oh yeah. From week 1 how many people had Justin Fields and Daniel Jones playing at elite levels?

How do you reconcile with the fact that the most competent and productive the Panthers passing offense has looked at any point between 2023 and 2025 were both games where Andy Dalton (who is completely washed and terrible) started? 680 passing yards and 5 touchdowns in two games. And one of those games was with Frank Reich as the head coach. This team needs competent QB play.

If we're in position and he is there, he will absolutely be the pick. He goes to South Carolina after all

Does Miami still want Bryce? lol

No I mean a professional QB doesn’t need a wide receiver to tell him where the safety is and what coverage they’re in.

What are your thoughts on Sellers? Big frame and big arm at 6'3 and 245 lbs. Shades of Cam Newton. Complete opposite of Young. Could be the answer to what they need. He needs some refinment, but the intangibles are sky high. Looks like a smart guy and not a problem child. He will be a high QB prospect no doubt.

Not resign Dalton, sign a healthy jag, sit Young all year and the trade him i 26. Easy and stated for moths here

So you mean a QB needs a professional WR? You think?

No one would be complain if Bryce and the O were productive and threatening…..and we lost with bad defense. Thats literally what we setup with our investments to be at this point in time.

the #1 Heisman winning draft pick came off the bench looking better, I see why he wasn't traded. If he was and this year the Panthers still went 5-12 it would look bad. Really no winning play for Dave

The Panthers have. Frank.