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And that's on them. They will live and die by the decisions they make in the offseason. So all eyes will be on Dan Morgan after the season.

Fair, though Mahomes is also having something of a "back to earth" season this year.

It makes sense (even though I don't think Bryce is the answer). Bring in competition next year for him and if he sucks, then you trade him to another team who will have him for his 5th year to try and make him a reclamation project

Are you really shocked? That seems like a very panthers thing to do to me.

I used to work at a job where I occasionally had a desk admin role that included taking messages from employee friends and family. This one girl had a boyfriend who would call in every day and ask me to "tell Pook I love her" insisting specific that I call her by that name. My response? I walked over to her desk, then announced loudly and with a straight face in front of her and her nearby coworkers that "loverboy snooky woogums called to tell Pook he wuvs her" After which I'd turn and walk back to my desk maintaining as professional a demeanor as I could

Dan Morgan and his team are part of the brain trust that brought us Bryce Young. Same dream team that could only find Jack Plummer as a young body to be in house this summer.

You got me there. I'm slipping in my old age.

This is a grown man's game. If his feelings are hurt that's his issue. The team comes first. Ask Canales. Better yet ask Dan.

Allen hasnt won a SB so even though he's great, he probably has a couple of detractors. I think most phins fans are over Tua by now. Phins fans probably felt similar to us when he was on his rookie deal though. Im worried we will feel like them if Young gets a big contract here.

Seems pretty obvious to expect that but it doesn't happen until May 1 ish

Fowler and Graziano both believe he'll get the fifth year option. Graziano thinks that it's at least possible (and maybe practical) that they go ahead and offer him an extension of some sort. A short-term, mid-range extension would be the best idea in his eyes, but he isn't positive Young will want to agree to that.

as a starter (12 games vs 12 games). Sets up perfectly given the week we fall on. 2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers 2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers that sure looks like less offense and more turnovers this year vs last year as the starting QB. I mean, you don't have to call it worse. Not sure how you get better out of it.

Knowing our luck the bottom will fall out.

Thirded...

I seen an African American woman on social media say " ya'll need to leave my Pookie alone" about Bryce. I thought that was pretty funny.

Was literally about to say exactly this. I have absolutely no problem with this if we actually bring in legit competition (either by FA or draft).

Might have more to do with three touchdowns. Gimme 3 TDs and 84 yds passing and I'm going to be okay with that. Give me 1 TD, 422 yards passing and 3 INTs... well, nah. The number of yards matters much less than where those yards were on the field.

If we assume Evero and his scheme remain in place, he'd technically be either a nose guard or a 3-4 style defensive end. Not necessarily a pass rusher, but a guy with the potential to play alongside Derrick Brown and make our defensive line a stone wall. I can get on board with this, but I'd hope we also make other offseason moves to improve our pass rush.

Lol some of you kill me. He hasn’t even played two full seasons, he’s already trusted enough to call the plays, is only 22 years old, is leading an incredibly improved defense, and some of you act like he’s garbage. We are getting great production from him and he was a 3rd round pick. Where is the understanding that players get better with time and experience? He’s doing great, especially when our first round pick is getting one catch a game.

Right now, all that means is that an option is likely to be exercised. We were keeping him for year four no matter what and we will probably keep him around for year five. Both of those years would be at what could be considered reasonable fees for a QB. What kind of QB? Where on the depth chart? Doesn't say a thing. Not one damned thing about it. And that's because we don't know what we have yet from Bryce, still. But let's be honest about a few things since Canales came along. We are actually showing the kind of progress you want from a head coach. He inherited a run down, poorly assembled team that was more used to being doormats and losers than anything else. And he elevated the squad with limited resources last year, even at one point benching the starting #1 pick QB for poor performance and keeping him from starting until another injury forced his hand. And somehow, with a historically bad defense, we managed to win some games that we had no right doing and playing a couple of other championship level teams to a near deadlock. And we moved into this season with Bryce back under center and we've had some serious ups and downs for the third year QB. And the rest of the team. We're getting better but we are far from a finished product, especially at QB. But we are sitting here with a winning record and two wins against teams where the betting line had us at 10 point underdogs. We actually have a shot at the playoffs. Last year, that would have been completely unbelievable. So, here we are looking at giving Bryce that coveted 5th year option and the money and commitment that comes with it. What does that do? Well, it gives Canales and Bryce another season to fix what is broken and to grow, which he is (in fits and starts). Can Canales coax that record setting Bryce out a bit more? He did against LA last week. Maybe there's more growing to happen there. And well, as much as we might kick the walls at that thought, it would be good for everything to finally pay out on that gamble we made. But what it doesn't do... It doesn't lock us into not drafting a QB again, possibly one on Day 2 or 3 of the draft to keep Bryce's seat warm and to groom for the future. It also doesn't prevent us from snagging a FA QB out there if the right one comes along that Canales feels more confident. And if another team with a desperate need at QB or a good team in need of a quality back up comes sniffing around, there are two years on a decent contract available for trade. There's no lose in exercising the option. There are some opportunities.

Seconded...

Should have qualified that, he seemed like he was PLAYING slow. But I'm not gonna act like I know how to play linebacker in the NFL.

0 issue picking up the 5th year. It’s critical that we do, in case he continues to build and get better each season. It would be insane to talk extension this offseason though. Pick up the 5th year option, and if he shows consistency, do an extension after year 4. It’s as easy as that, this is not an issue of having to pay a lot more if we make a mistake, it’s all risk no reward to even think of an extension after this season based on the constancy shown through three seasons.

Not something to be concerned about. I pointed to that because it gives the full conversation to put the headline in context. Twitter guys are only gonna give you the highlights.