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Fixing the issues from the first game was more so Bryce using his legs which I really wish he’d do more often but I’m also assuming his ankle is in pretty rough shape We couldn’t get much going in game 1 against the Saints and it wasn’t all that different game two. On the first drive Bryce scrambled for 15 on 3rd down extending that drive leading to a TD On the FG drive in 2nd Quarter Bryce extended a 4th down play completing a pass to TMac for 21 yards And then second half/old tendencies Canales really starts coaching scared with a lead. Which leaves the margin for error on any drive literally zero

I doubt it. JT was been a disappointment and I think they were banking on him developing. The fact they are reliant on decent contributions from a late rounder in Evans is pretty telling.

Honestly DC needs a seasoned OC to call plays while he is still learning as a HC. I do think he has some potential as a HC but I was hoping someone like McDaniels got fired from Miami so he could come here and call the offense.

Let's keep it real here. BY bailed on the pocket throughout the game. Some of them turned into net positives others were not necessary. And when you reflect on the entire game and see Tyler Shough hanging in the pocket and delivering strikes while getting hit it should drive home to you that this is not what we drafted Bryce Young to do. We drafted him to be a field general and distribute the ball through the air. We were also told he would not need top shelf talent across the board as a result. None of this is okay.

I somewhat suspect they view the group as "complete."

We took some abuse from Cam Jordan last game, but it's not like that hasn't happened before.

He basically is only able to make adjustments with at least a week of hindsight. He is completely clueless on the in game adjustments. Tremendously worse than guys like Fox or Rivera who were constantly criticized for that.

Also. I cannot say enough how insane it is that the same people who expect the defense to win us games and complain about the OL while completely ignoring the reality that we went above and beyond to over invest in the OL just to give Bryce Young a chance to look like an average QB. And he still can't do that. But it's everyone else's fault. Pitiful.

To be fair, calling Legette a "first round receiver" is a little misleading. I would agree though that the OL has generally been good, especially when you tractor in all the injuries.

Icky alone gave up 5 pressures last Sunday against the Saints. He was injured in the first half and then was bullied by Chase Young a good bit that game.

Do you think BY avoided any sacks Sunday? Just looking for your opinion.

Highest paid OL in the league. Multiple first round WR's. You can type up as many excuses as you want. If our guy can't produce in THIS pitiful version of the NFCS it's a wrap. Accept it.

No, you don't. But one of the elements that most fans have been asking for is play makers and big time plays in big moments. We had another big TD throw against the Saints, but again, the Panthers need it on a more consistent basis. Lack of it has been coaching AND personnel. To see some of it emerging is hopeful at best. They just cannot put it all together week to week. These last three games will tell us even more.

Our TE group might be one of the worst in the league. We need to upgrade it 100% no matter who the QB is.

I honestly don’t even know what you’re rambling on about here. The OL gave up multiple immediate pressures that Bryce overcame and made plays. Bryce was the main reason this offense was able to move the ball at all on Sunday. Overall the OL isnt a top 10 OL in terms of pass protection which is a Dan Morgan problem. Especially given the amount of cap he’s got tied into them The box score watching casuals are being exposed in this thread it was only fitting you jumped in Carry on

I was referring to changes that he made from one game to the next. In game is another story.

I don't know how you can say he did a good job fixing issues. He doesn't even recognize issues in game. Situational awareness is one of the things he lacks. He's probably one of the least flexible coaches I've seen. We do the same thing over and over. Defending DC offense is pretty easy. Stack the box and make Bryce beat you. Either he will or he won't.

I'm much less concerned about missing on Darnold as I am Mike Macdonald. The guy has that franchise humming from top to bottom. Disgusts me. Seahawks fans have it made. Meanwhile we're over here consistently disappointing any time there are even remotely upward expectations.

Of course we can but TE like WR is going to continue to be a what if position group until we get a QB in here who can consistently put our receivers in a position to succeed with quality ball placement.

It was really like 3 different plays, over and over and over… pitch left. WR screen right and WR screen left.

This place really is something. The team has shown year to year growth both years Dave has been here and half of the people here can only ever talk about the negative.

Nothing sucks more at that place than having to pay 30 bucks just to park

It was a bad play from Icky but the OL didn't give up a sack until late in the 4th quarter and Bryce just stood there like he was canatonic. If our 3rd year number one overall pick can't overcome one single sack against a rebuilding Saints team that should only have 2 wins this season then it isn't ever going to happen. You can login here and act like you are the only one above the fray and rational but in reality you're just boot licking for bottom of the barrel QB play because there isn't anyone associated with the Panthers that you wouldn't throw under several speeding buses in order to run cover for Bryce Young.

I felt like he did a good job fixing the issues from the first Saints game, for example. Although I admit mid second half it did kind of feel like he was going back to old tendencies.

Young isn't being tricked by coverages - so whatever Canales is teaching is working - the problem is he's just not talented enough to get the ball where it needs to be.