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I love the time between preseason and the start of the regular season where the Panthers are not a losing team. We only get it for a short period each season but it is truly a magical time.

Maybe this will help? I dunno I'm headed to work so can't watch yet

It's football. I'll take it!

Games been a snooze fest of sloppy play

ESPN's David Newton: QUARTERBACKS (2): Bryce Young, Andy Dalton A preseason muscle injury to Dalton's right arm could force the Panthers to keep Jack Plummer if the issue gets worse, but that currently doesn't seem to be a concern. For the first time since going No. 1 in 2023, there is no question that Young is the starter after winning two of his final three games last season with 10 touchdowns (7 passing, 3 rushing) and no turnovers. RUNNING BACKS (3): Chuba Hubbard, Rico Dowdle, Trevor Etienne Selecting Etienne in the fourth round out of Georgia makes veteran Raheem Blackshear a likely cut. Etienne has shown in the preseason that he is a capable option as a runner, in addition to being a returner, which has been Blackshear's primary responsibility since 2022. WIDE RECEIVERS (7): Tetairoa McMillan, Xavier Legette, Adam Thielen, Jalen Coker, Jimmy Horn Jr., David Moore, Hunter Renfrow This is the most improved group on the team, so keeping seven initially makes sense. If the Panthers go with six it could make coach Dave Canales' favorite, Moore, expendable with Renfrow showing he's close to the level he played in 2021 when he made the Pro Bowl with the Las Vegas Raiders. Brycen Tremayne, who's had an excellent preseason, will be a tough cut. TIGHT ENDS (3): Tommy Tremble, Ja'Tavion Sanders, Mitchell Evans There is anticipation Tremble (back surgery) will be ready for the regular season after coming off the PUP list before the preseason finale, though he could still miss a game or two. Keeping him on the 53-man roster makes sense so she doesn't have to miss the first four games. OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (10): T Ikem Ekwonu, G Damien Lewis, G Robert Hunt, C Austin Corbett, C Cade Mays, T Taylor Moton, T Yosh Nijman, T-G Brady Christensen, G Chandler Zavala, G Jarrett Kingston Injuries to guards Lewis (strained shoulder) and Zavala (knee) plays a factor in keeping 10 instead of the nine predicted going into camp. The starting five returning from 2024 had a solid preseason, but the lackluster play of backups showed depth remains a concern. DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (6): DE Derrick Brown, NT Bobby Brown III, DE Tershawn Wharton, DE A'Shawn Robinson, NT Cam Jackson , DE Jaden Crumedy A shoulder injury that has kept fifth-round pick Jackson from making an impact means Crumedy could make it here. The biggest cut will be Shy Tuttle, who has 32 starts the past two years but little to show for it. Moving on from him will create $2.4 million in cap space that can be used elsewhere. LINEBACKERS (10): OLB D.J. Wonnum, OLB Patrick Jones II, OLB Princely Umanmielen, OLB Nic Scourton, OLB Thomas Incoom, ILB Christian Rozeboom, ILB Trevin Wallace, ILB Claudin Cherelus, ILB Jon Rhattigan, ILB Jacoby Windmon The release of ILB Josey Jewell (concussion protocol) at the start of camp required immediate attention, but Rozeboom has stepped up well. Depth remains a big question, particularly inside. Moving on from draft pick Bam Martin-Scott means he'll likely end up on the practice squad. It was time to move on from OLB DJ Johnson. Look for turnover beyond the starters here. CORNERBACKS (5): Jaycee Horn, Mike Jackson, Chau Smith-Wade, Shemar Bartholomew, Corey ThorntonJackson has played well enough at times to ease the concern opposite Pro Bowler Horn. Thorton's play during camp has been a big surprise, but the overall depth of this group means there likely will be turnover. SAFETIES (4): Tre'von Moehrig, Nick Scott, Demani Richardson, Lathan Ransom The big question is how long it will take fourth-round pick Ransom to replace Scott as the starter opposite Moehrig. Also, don't rule out another experienced player being signed. SPECIALISTS (3): K Ryan Fitzgerald, P Sam Martin, LS JJ Jansen Big-legged undrafted free agent Fitzgerald out of Florida State may have solidified his spot over Matthew Wright with a 52-yard field goal in the second preseason game against the Texans. The other two spots are solid, but Carolina likely will keep an eye out for dependable veterans who end up being released.

Holy poo Is it raining grease? Neither team can hold on to the ball.

The foward pass is a close second for being mia

2022 HOU WRs: Nico Collins, Brandin Cooks, Phillip Dorsett, Chris Conley, Johnny Johnson, Tyron Johnson, Tyler Johnson, Chris Moore, Amari Rodgers, Jalen Camp 2023 HOU WRs: Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Xavier Hutchinson, Robert Woods, Johnny Johnson, John Metchie, Steven Sims Drafting Stroud was huge but rebooting their WR room and solidifying the OL also made Stroud's life better for the Texans as well.

Avery Johnson is a lot of fun to watch. Ball security does not exist in this game tho

Stroud makes alot of there players better. Look at there wr stats before and after stroud. That draft pic alone changed their entire team crazy to look at the before and after stroud texans.

Sounds like a safe space.

The front office cant have some young guy with a live arm come in here and make Young look bad I guess.

I want to laugh and hope it’s a joke but somehow I believe this to be true.

Eh. Ultimately they got abused badly when they faced a more stout contender in the Ravens last year. I watched that one and while they have made improvements to that roster it's still a work in progress. And ultimately they are an injury or two away from tough predicaments like any other team. And they have dealt with that along the way. And let's consider that for a moment. For so long now we've used injuries or lack of depth as an excuse for bad football. But there are other teams out there that while they might stumble a bit they don't utimately fall down a flight of stairs to the cellar because of it. Our Panthers however? Well you know.

I don’t think anyone thinks Perkins can play with the first unit and succeed. Everyone pointing out the fact he looks better than Plummer with only two practices. I was really pulling for Plummer to figure it out and take Dalton’s spot at QB2. Oh well, there was a reason they brought in Perkins.

Well you would think the people in the front office and on staff would consider that and a light bulb would go off. But. They were hired by the Tepper's after all.

They also have a roster stacked with tremendously more talent than ours.

Panthers continually seem to fumble this position. At this point just give a young promising kicker the keys and roll the dice.

We have always treated the QB room like this. I mean literally forever.

Best case scenario this season is Bryce either looks like a top 12 QB or he is awful again. For me. Either way. They need to draft a developmental QB next year even if Bryce emerges. We can't keep treating the QB room like this.

It's not that wild. Only one kicker in each conference makes it.

For whatever one may feel about this situation it is interesting viewing other teams around the league like the Texans who already have two playoff wins the last two years operating much differently. The oldest WR on their roster is 29 and they just traded away a 24 year old WR for a player and a pick. We don't have to like it but from a neutral perspective it is worth pondering if the Panthers are continuing to move like a losing franchise.

We don't need a 3rd QB, TBH. Bryce is either gonna be bad or fine and Dalton is a top tier #2(will win you a couple perhaps). If we aren't shooting for the moon on a mid-to late round draft pick, the PS QB is fuging very irrelevant.

That’s actually wild.

He's marginally better than Plummer but that's a subterranean low bar. I think most people know Perkins is a jag at best. But it's through no fault of ours we find ourselves in this situation. The responsibility rests with Dan Morgan.