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Division rival. I'll NEVER root for any of them under any circumstances.

Yeah, just saw that.

Exactly, insert nice things and not being able to have them quote here.

I cannot stand them. They are winning the division repeatedly now only because we are failing to put a decent product on the field. As we slowly become relevant again, this division is wide open. Baker Mayfield does not deserve to be handed a division trophy every year due solely to the ineptitude of the other teams in the division. I also hate that Lavonte David gets to play a seemingly twenty year career and we only got a blink of an eye with Luke.

that's one thing Clemson football has going for it from a fan perspective. It's about as close as you can find to the old way of things. So you pretty much can follow a kid for 4 years/develop and root for them vs just tuning in for this year's rentals that probably come from "rivals" or wherever. Clemson doesn't need to join the SEC. That kills the SC rivalry. Which is basically built in joy even when your team sucks because of tradition. Money killing tradition/rivalry is the death of college football.

Is it that or are their fans less offensive?

Honestly, my interest in college sports has waned tremendously in recent years. Hard to keep up with it when you don't recognize the names of 80% of the roster because of the constant transfers. I mean, we have a kid suiting up for the basketball team this year who is like 24 and has been playing pro ball in Europe for several years. And we're not the only ones with that type of player. WTF is that??? They're really gonna have to figure out something going forward or they're going to kill the golden goose.

Probably about time to start a new CFB thread…

money is ruining college sports. and it won't stop until college sports isn't worth watching. I don't care about UNC football but UNC basketball, Duke and all that......it's sad to see that die.

Sounds like UNC is heading to the SEC. This has been whispered about for years but never this loudly and widespread. I mean, you have Paul Finnebaum the guy known as the "Voice of the SEC" saying it's gonna happen now.

I have always thought that was crazy since they show nothing else from that season at all!

Edgar Salmingo, Jr. ✌ @PanthersAnalyst · 47m First time seeing Nic Scourton mentioned with a good play this training camp And Shemar Bartholomew again with a play today Corey Thornton is a CB who's been getting a lot of run this camp, I wonder if the coaches like him Kassidy Hill @KassidyGHill · 45m Trevin Wallace said after Josey Jewell (concussion) was released, former Panther LB Shaq Thompson texted him encouragement, telling him it was his time to step up. Edgar Salmingo, Jr. ✌ @PanthersAnalyst · 44m Second big injury news for the #Panthers since Josey Jewell's release Canales says OL Chandler Zavala is week-to-week, hopeful he can come back in camp Mentions Ja'Tyre Carter, Brady Christensen, and Jarrett Kingston as the guys who will get more opportunities in his absence Joe Person @josephperson · 43m Trevin Wallace on the scuffle with Chuba Hubbard yesterday: Emotional game, but all love. Says if he was knocked on his butt, he’d have been mad, too. Joe Person @josephperson · 40m Trevin Wallace says he texts with Shaq Thompson every day and also keeps in regular contact with Luke Kuechly. ThePanthersWire @ThePanthersWire · 10m Panthers HC Dave Canales praises CB Shemar Bartholomew for his 'big day' at training camp

Darin Gantt @daringantt · 1h Canales says Derrick Brown was limited today, "general soreness" in the oblique, nothing to do with the knee. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h Wednesday will be a padded, longer practice, per Canales. Kassidy Hill @KassidyGHill · 1h Today was a vet day for Jaycee Horn and Mike Jackson, according to Canales. Steve Reed @SteveReedAP · 55m Dave Canales said the tight end room is a strong room, "starting with Ja'Tavion Sanders."

Joe Person @josephperson · 1h Corey Thornton with nice breakup at the goal line on a pass intended for JT Sanders. The undrafted rookie from Louisville has had a nice start to camp. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h Pretty sure it would have been a hold in a game but Corey Thornton smothered JT Sanders for a pass breakup in 11s off a throw from 9. Kassidy Hill @KassidyGHill · 59m Dave Canales opens his press conference sending thoughts to those in NYC affected by the shooting last night. Darin Gantt @daringantt · 1h Chandler Zavala suffered a knee injury Monday, described him as week to week. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h G Chandler Zavala (knee) is week to week with a patella injury. It’s not a full rupture, per Canales. “Chandler was having such a great camp.” Canales said Brady Christensen and Jarrett Kingston are picking up slack. Injury happened in a one on one drill with Derrick Brown. Joe Person @josephperson · 1h G Chandler Zavala is week to week after injuring his knee Monday. It’s related to his patella tendon, but it did not rupture. Happened in pass rush drill vs Derrick Brown. Kassidy Hill @KassidyGHill · 1h Canales says they saw DB Shemar Bartholomew progress during the spring, but challenged him to take next step. "Today was a big day for him."

https://x.com/PanthersAnalyst/status/1950209602680746000 Edgar Salmingo, Jr. ✌ @PanthersAnalyst · 1h #Panthers sign Ja'seem Reed, one of 3 WRs who tried out yesterday Interesting choice to cut Dan Chisena. Not the worst WR on the roster, same with Amare Barno for the EDGEs Seems like they're releasing bubble guys early instead of waiting until cut day so other guys get a shot Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h Austin Corbett anchors very well at center and Andy Dalton zooms the ball over the middle to Jimmy Horn on a deep cross for a TD in 11s. Shemar Bartholomew with a pick on Bryce Young on the next play. Gabe McDonald @GabeMcDonald_ · 1h #Panthers CB Shemar Bartholomew with a solid day so far. Had a PBU on the first series of the second period of 11 on 11 and just started the third series with an INT on a Bryce Young pass. Joe Person @josephperson · 1h Matthew Wright was 3-5. Last one clanged off the right upright. Edgar Salmingo, Jr. ✌ @PanthersAnalyst · 1h Looks like it was the passing focused 11 on 11 session Hunter Renfrow and Jimmy Horn, Jr., made big plays again have a day Shemar Joe Person @josephperson · 1h Bryce Young airs one out to Jalen Coker. Tight coverage by Shemar Bartholomew. Coker couldn’t come down with it. 11v11

Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h Andy Dalton threw to Jimmy Horn down the middle in traffic and Horn got popped incidentally by Nick Scott. Held onto the ball in 7s. Joe Person @josephperson · 1h Andy Dalton with a nice throw down the middle to Jimmy Horn, who holds on despite being knocked down by Nick Scott on incidental contact. 7v7 Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 1h 7s work, no pads. Andy Dalton to Jimmy Horn Jr over the middle. Bit of a hospital ball — Horn gets knocked to the turf (cleanly) by Nick Scott in coverage. But still snags it and flexes afterward. Impressive.

Joe Person @josephperson · 1h Jaycee Horn getting a day off. Throwing to the DBs in individual drills. Panthers in shorts and helmets today after full pads yesterday. oe Person @josephperson · 1h Looks like a maintenance day for Derrick Brown. He’s working on the side. Still wearing big brace on his right knee. Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 2h The #Panthers have signed WR Ja'seem Reed and released WR Dan Chisena with an injury settlement, per the team. Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 1h Reed is wearing #88. Chisena was a key special teams guy for the Panthers a year ago but started camp on the PUP list with a calf injury. Joe Person @josephperson · 1h David and Nicole Tepper visiting with Hall of Famer Bill Polian. Carolina Panthers @Panthers · 1h You can just tell by that smile Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 1h Excellent crossbody zing from Andy Dalton to TJ Luther in 11s. Dalton has been carving since camp started.

And I am super excited about him. But he's a 6th round rookie..its going to take some time.

I love the roster churning. I also heard Jimmy was talking about breaking the combine 40 record and then wasn't even close. Just odd to me the legend of Jimmy's speed. He was also apparently terrible at the 3 cone. Odd.

We needed receivers. Period. When your best receiver was an aging over the hill 34 year old vet you need receivers. I think those of you expecting T-Mac to be a slow plodding soft guy like Funchess are gonna be surprised. He doesn't have the physicality of KB but he's not soft like Funchess and he's quicker and faster than both. Expect something similar to Drake London. He had two solid seasons with trash QB play then blossomed in year three to put up nearly 1300 yards.

We brought in 3 safeties and 3 CB's as UDFA. Not sure about all the moves in the last 3 months With DMo constantly churning the bottom of the roster.

Sounding more like Jimmy Horn Jr is going to turn out like Shi Smith. That blurb is like something you'd write about a jugs machine. Really puts the ball where the players need it and helps us work on our catching. 10/10.