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He is just a wild, TO prone gunslinger. That's not particularly valued in the NFL in this era.

A player to watch this weekend is CJ Allen, ILB from Georgia. He’s a mid to late 1st rounder or early 2nd who is a major ballhawk and tackling machine.

I'm happy we're winning games and Bryce has contributed in some of them and hopefully is not going to be an all-time bust for us. Every young QB is different. Some hit the ground running, some look like poo and improve later or in different scenarios and some guys never get it. I think we're at the point where we don't need to do anything drastic at the QB spot like we did to get Young in the first place. I think we DEFINITELY need to do what others have mentioned. Sign a QB that can play in case Young has another episode of trash football player and draft a Young guy (no pun) on day 2 or 3 to sit and learn or play later on if we implode with Young. We have to have a real life contingency plan next season. That can't be ignored again.

It is interesting how the games changed over the past 10-15 years. I mainly started watching football in like 2010 or so. I feel like every week there were QBs throwing for 400+, 300 yards was a pedestrian day it felt like. Now even the best qbs dont throw for 300 super often it feels.

I dont necessarily disagree just really curious as to why that is? He either must be a dunce, a bad teammate or must be horrendous in practice because I thought he showed promise at least in his 2nd year

Its AI but here goes nothing: Trevor Lawrence's catchable ball statistics vary by situation, with his highest rate being 74.1%74.1 % 74.1% in a clean pocket and his lowest on deep balls at 41.2%41.2 % 41.2% . When pressured, his catchable pass rate is 51.6%51.6 % 51.6% , and it's 55.2%55.2 % 55.2% on play-action plays. Lawrence has also been impacted by a high receiver drop rate, which makes it appear as if he is more inaccurate than he is. Catchable pass rate by situation Clean pocket: 74.1%74.1 % 74.1% (ranks 28th out of 32 quarterbacks) Deep balls: 41.2%41.2 % 41.2% (ranks 23rd out of 32 quarterbacks) When pressured: 51.6%51.6 % 51.6% (ranks 15th out of 32 quarterbacks) On play action: 55.2%55.2 % 55.2% (ranks 28th out of 32 quarterbacks) Red zone: 65.1%65.1 % 65.1% (ranks 15th out of 32 quarterbacks) When blitzed: 69.2%69.2 % 69.2% (ranks 19th out of 32 quarterbacks) Compared to: Bryce Young's catchable ball stats vary by situation, with a high catchable pass rate of 73.2%73.2 % 73.2% in a clean pocket (30th in the NFL) and a 60%60 % 60% rate on deep throws (20+ air yards), which was 10th in the NFL in 2024. However, his pressured and blitzed catchable rates were lower at 39.7%39.7 % 39.7% (31st) and 60.3%60.3 % 60.3% (29th), respectively. By situation Clean pocket: 73.2%73.2 % 73.2% catchable pass rate (30th in NFL) Deep ball (20+ air yards): 60%60 % 60% catchable pass rate (10th in NFL in 2024) Pressure: 39.7%39.7 % 39.7% catchable pass rate (31st in NFL) Blitzed: 60.3%60.3 % 60.3% catchable pass rate (29th in NFL) Red zone: 62.5%62.5 % 62.5% catchable pass rate (22nd in NFL)

Same slant as before, dude. Look, it doesn't matter what mental gymnastics you apply to the story. You cannot remove Bryce from being a part of why we won these games. He did his job. In some games better than others? Yes, but the end result still matters. The wins are team wins. The losses are team losses And Bryce plays a key role in the team. Like I said earlier, continue arguing that he should be replaced. I'm doing that as well. But denying reality doesn't help your argument. It actually weakens it.

I think the league has largely spoken on Howell. He didn't end up a 3rd string QB accidentally. Same as Winston.

that truly sucks

How many of those drops are off target throws which Lawrence is near the top in?

KC was winning as well and they were still like "fug this, he sucks get a replacement stat"

Been in competitive sports all my life. Not been my experience ever.

Sure you did buddy, you are never going to live that down arguing with folks that Fitterer was a good gm. I mean that was your shtick for a good year when it was plain as day he fuging sucked. Time or not he fuging sucked and it still shows to this day and you are really going to say with a straight face you didnt defend him at every turn? come on man just own it, we have the receipts you know

I am assuming this is true. And its kindof crazy that there hasnt really been a story about why Howell cannot stay on a roster. 2023 Sam Howell had to throw upwards of 50 times a game and 84% of his balls were catchable. Of his 612 attempts, 84% were catchable. (According to sports info solutions) EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT. That’s with the defense knowing he was going to pass. No run game. No defense having to respect play action. An atrocious offensive line. 84%. He was sacked 65 times.

Wrong. I said he needed more time. That was until it came out that he'd been undermining Reich. At that point, I said toss him.

15 completions. Less than 4 passes per quarter. 2 of his passes were on 4th down with the defense pressing. That was half of his offensive production. TMac and XL only had 1 reception each. Coker & Evans were his main targets. Couldn't even get Tremble and Sanders effectively involved. It was the Rico & Chuba show splitting 39 plays. The dowfield pass was used sparingly with good playcalling on 4th and short. There was no air game. Just 2 4th down highlights as his pass to Chuba was a swing pass behind the LoS. Playcalling, OL and RBs carried the offense.

No, but winning blunts and decreases any motivation the team might have to replace him.

Security blanket or not, Dalton is done. He can't win a game as a backup or even compete at a minimal level. He needs to go. Bryce has had a woobie for 3 years. Time to put that away.

sign howell, draft a guy and make it a fair competition I think we all know what would happen

87% of the time

With a 3% margin of error

Draft status follows you. 1st rounders get chance after chance. Mid-rounders often don't. I mean, they get roster chances but not necessarily chances to compete for starting roles, especially at QB. Evidently the Seahawks were interested in Howell in the draft and the guy on the staff primarily responsible for scouting him was their QB coach at the time... Dave Canales. Canales was the Seahawks representative sent to the UNC pro day. https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/seahawks/2022/03/28/seahawks-quarterbacks-coach-unc-sam-howell-pro-day/80280994007/

Jags lead the NFL with 36 drops (many have been huge ones). That supporting cast has been really bad (and hurt) on the year. Trevor is just Trevor. A lab built QB that plays aggressive/dumb. He will have 5 seasons under his belt by years in with 3 different HCs.....and just 2 losing seasons. Trevor is a disappointment in terms of being a #1 overall pick. But he is middle of the road NFL starting QB.

what the fug are you talking about?

As he should