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Should have signed him to a longer term deal to replace Moton after this year

It was Zack Sanchez. Wikipedia lists him at 5'11" which I think is bullshit. Dude looked like Bryce Young playing cornerback.

What did Panthers do over the last 6 years to give you any hope? Or are you vesting into a bunch of unproven rookies and free agents who did not take a single snap for this franchise? Reminder, Panthers were historically bad last year. As much as I want them to go to Super Bowl, I want a damn winning season first then let’s talk about the playoffs…. Then maybe a Super Bowl.

I keep telling people to put your life's savings into the Panthers winning the SB. I did and if they don't win I'm out $50.

I'm down with OPP

I get that his measurables day IOL but his playing style and skill set say OT. I'd use him as a backup swing tackle.

Know what you mean here. Ive had both of mine done and each time I was back to normal relatively quickly as well. I thought the same thing but then after consideration I concluded that maybe my and Derek's normals are not the same thing. I am not/was not 300+LB and my job and recreational activity did not entail me having to violently engage other 300+LB men with twists, bends and quick bursts in a combative manner. I think those nuances may play a factor in getting him ready for the season and may lengthen his process compared to my recovery.

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by the way, that's a wrap. We now enter our annual summer long waiting period. Training camp starts sometime in July. First preseason game is Aug 8

He seems like a great guy---a real pro. We are lucky to have him

@Zaximus you made me think that even if my heart was willing, I just dont think the body is able anymore. I hope the gallbladder surgery went well and you are recovering but it just reminded me that if it wasnt my back it would be my knees that would keep me from it. One look at a mosh pit IRL might well cause my body to just surrender and collapse out of self defense

BY9 is having this moment

Posted before in this thread, he broke his leg late in 2015 after being dominant in the slot that year too, pretty sure that injury prompted us to sign Finnegan out of retirement (who to his credit was great as a late season injury replacement off the street). Not that it would've made much of a difference in the SB anyways with our OL getting killed, but we got absolutely decimated by injury at CB late that year with Bene breaking his leg and I think Peanut Tillman tore his achilles or something in like week 16. That was rough. But yeah Bene was truly a great slot corner, one of the best in the league, before that injury. Then in 2016 he came back out of shape and without the agility he had before and was just not good. Rivera inexplicably matched him against Julio without any adjustments that game and then we cut him. He had declined enough anyways but I hardly blame him for the Julio game. Dude was a slot corner who was already struggling that year, not someone you matchup against a guy who at the time was easily a top 3-5 WR in the league, if not the best...

Bene got scapegoated for that game. Literally. I think we cut him like a day or two after that game. He looked really good as a rookie but then had an injury that I can't recall exactly what it was and was just never the same after that.

I saw the same thing lol, couldn't believe my eyes. Apparently they were so hurt at safety they signed him to practice squad in November and he immediately slotted in for 7 starts. All at safety. Pretty sure the tiny dude was Sanchez and was one of the victims along with Benwikere to Julio's infamous 300 yard game. I think he only caught passes against those 2 guys all game, with most being against Bene. Barely played after that, rightfully so.

Of course, I agree. Gamble did it way longer here. If Bradberry played at that level here for as long as Gamble it'd be closer. Bradberry actually has had a pretty under the radar career post-Carolina too. Many will remember the game-ending hold in the Super Bowl but the dude did have a pro bowl season and another 2nd team all pro season after leaving. Gamble (outrageously) never even made a pro bowl.

Joe Person @josephperson · 2h Andy Dalton with a nice across his body throw on a scramble play to Hunter Renfrow, who got behind the secondary. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Third-string OT Brandon Walton and OLB Thomas Incoom both got physical after a Dalton toss to Etienne for a TD in 11 on 11. Incoom made contact with Walton’s facemask. Chippy #Panthers minicamp. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Princely Umanmielen with a “sack” on Jack Plummer. He’s having a nice minicamp. #Panthers Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Ethan Garbers, after a fumbled snap and a sack, hurls a nice ball to Dan Chisena for a 20 yard gain. He then gets tripped on a roll out. This third-string unit isn’t having the most fun week. Joe Person @josephperson · 2h Derrick Brown said the goal is to be ready for the start of training camp. “I hope so.” Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Derrick Brown (knee) hopes to be back in drills by training camp with “load management.” #Panthers Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Instead of a JUGS machine, Chuba Hubbard is getting thrown to by Jack Plummer while he runs routes after practice. Nice to change things up. #Panthers Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 1h #Panthers head coach Dave Canales said a version of this during rookie minicamp, and then was equally effusive today: This rookie class is “one of the best groups I’ve been around.” He explains what has impressed him after minicamp concluded. Joe Person @josephperson · 1h That’s a wrap on minicamp. Panthers appeared to avoid any serious injuries. Defense had the upper hand today after offense had a big day Wednesday. See everybody in late July. Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 1h #Panthers rookie running back Trevor Etienne was asked what he’s learned up until this point in the offseason program. His first response, with a smile: “I learned I didn’t know as much about football as I thought I did.” just read there were multiple scuffles today

Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h Christian Rozeboom broke up a pass over the middle by Bryce Young in 11 on 11. UDFA DB Isaac Gifford nearly came up with the pick. #Panthers Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 2h 11s work: #Panthers QB Bryce Young fires a pass over the middle that’s deflected by LB Christian Rozeboom. The ball flies in the air and then slips through S Isaac Gifford’s hands for a near-INT. Young follows that up with a slant to Adam Thielen that goes for a big gain. Alex Zietlow @alexzietlow05 · 2h Mike Jackson then picks off Young. Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 2h James Mitchell with a catch off a Bryce throw in the seam. Then Mike Jackson picks off BY9 in the flat on a target to RB Rico Dowdle. Mike read it the whole way. #Panthers Joe Person @josephperson · 2h Mike Jackson picks off Bryce Young in the EZ. Jackson ran all the way to the other end zone. He would not have been able to do that had it been a real game. Still, nice play.

interesting Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 3h We’ve only been to five open workouts but it sure seems like the #Panthers prefer Brady Christensen as an OT as opposed to an IOL at least based on the small sample size.

without a doubt his was much more serious, I am just saying of all the knee injuries it appears that the meniscus tear appears to the the shorter recovery time compared to acl/pcl/mcl. Seems like people bounce back quicker whether its a clean up or full tear.

Mike Kaye @mike_e_kaye · 3h Tetairoa McMillan and Nick Scott here but not practicing, Jimmy Horn in uniform but working on adjacent field with trainer, JJ Jansen and Matthew Wright are approved absences. #Panthers Joe Person @josephperson · 3h Tetairoa McMillan gets another day. We will see him again in five weeks.