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After the Raiders and Bengals game last year, he looked completely fatigued for the other games. He didn’t look good in the preseason either. I think his age plus not really playing much has caught up with him. It’s different at that age if he’s playing every week, but he hasn’t and he lost it.

Well we have these games for it to play out how it plays out.

I feel bad for Chuba and bad for thinking it, but i’ve started to wonder if maybe he was as good as he appeared to be because we had no other good options. You know? Slow-and-steady-wins-the-race-type-thing? Because the poo we’ve seen the last two weeks is horrible. I saw someone tweet earlier that the current alternating series strategy limits both from their strengths - Rico’s fast, explosive hard runs, and Chuba’s ability to churn until he gains momentum. I just don’t fuging understand what Canales is doing.

He will retire at the end of the season. Canales already said in the press conference that he will continue being the back up. The real question will be who do they get in the offseason to either A) provide competition in QB room or B) have a competent back up for situations like this. The problem is can you really have B without A?

That has to be water under the bridge at this point. Just hope they learn from it. I have always said I think that was maybe a mandated thing. Not specifically take him but you help Bryce at all costs, priority number one we can fix other poo later. But that doesn’t matter anymore either.

Pretty sad when Eric Shelton may not longer be your biggest 2nd round RB bust.

I still think AR got a raw deal. He did some things as a rookie that were SPECIAL. He has the tools. I think he had to mature a bit, but he gets trashed and I feel like he doesn’t deserve a lot of it. I would love to pick him up and see what we can do, because he showed some promise already at times and you can’t teach the physical skills he has. That would be fun to watch. and yes, Daniel Jones, Jameis, Russ, Shadeur, etc., all made a ton of sense to bring as competition and at best they’d start, at worst they backup and be one of the best backups in the league. And yet, we decided, simply - “fug it.”

Nothing like taking a RB in a weak RB class as a 2nd round draft pick. Tepper your expectations.

I think you have to look at Brooks as a non factor. If he comes back and proves he is, it’s gravy. But you can’t count on anything from him.

Well I don't think he will ever be consistent. He will always be up or down with his play. Mostly down.

I am expecting that Brooks will never play a meaningful snap for the Panthers and will be a FA immediately once his rookie deal is up.

That’s where I am falling on it, in the practical clinical view. Take the hit on the smaller return you get from Chuba. I don’t think it will happen though PS even if we don’t have Brooks, we got Rico for a pretty decent price and there are running backs out there. Rico is doing the role they got Brooks to do, being another good option in the passing game

The time to do all that was the offseason. We gotta lie in the bed we made rest of season.

....I am trying to build out a QB Success model. This is what I have so far. Give me some critiques or other input to help me improve it. Note: ANY of these being applicable make the QB a "success" in the model. Not any combination of them. 1st Round QB's Hall Of Fame 1+ MVP's 1+ All-Pro 1+ Pro Bowl 8+ Year Starter 2nd Round QB's Any of the above 5+ Year Starter 10+ Year Career 3rd Round QB's Any of the above 3+ Year Starter 7+ Year Career 4-7th Round QB's Any of the above 30+ Games Started 5+ Year Career

Battle of 2-1 teams. Hornets are tied for first in the league in points scored per game and second in point differential. Tough matchup on the road, but if the offense keeps clicking, no reason to think we can’t win this game. Let’s go Hornets!!!

I am fighting liking him because I do. I think if he had the tools and was a bit bigger so he didn’t have so much to work around that he could be perfect because I love his attitude. I said this last week. I don’t want to like him personally because I think I will have to fire him and I won’t want to. Have to stay detached.

OK, then (I haven't looked). If it's as you say, and I'm not doubting you, then why in the fug would we trade Rico if it's relatively easy to get rid of Chuba, especially when we have JB (at least in theory) returning at some point in the future as well? You gotta trade Chuba and extend Dowdle, right?

Allow me to clarify as I am sure you don’t catalog everything I post but there is some qualifying that statement that was done. I think the Dallas game was his ceiling. He played well for the whole game and didn’t phuck it up and contributed some nice throws. What he hasn’t done is follow that level of performance with a duplicate. And that one with another. No consistency. He is up and back down to date and that is clear as it can be, there should be no arguing that from anyone. He is a roller coaster. 2023 Green Bay, very promising. Followed by two shutouts. The end of 2024, followed by the beginning of 2025. The best stretch he has is 6 quarters, 2nd half Miami and the Dallas game. MAybe there is another 6 quarters somewhere but that is it. So I am looking for him to hit his ceiling and keep that floor a lot higher in this stretch of games.

Let’s go! What a second half. 2-1 and our offense looking great, even with Miller out. Rooks balling. Melo and Bridges doing their thing. On to the Heat!

And I took the bait, despite what my more sensible me was screaming. I saw what he did in ATL, and really thought we had something. alas, I have come to accept that he is what he is. An undersized dude who is more durable than I gave him credit for. He comes across as an intelligent guy who has gradually gained knowledge of the Xs and Os of the position. He does come up clutch in big moments but he lacks the physical strength to play in the NFL, and has not done a damn thing in his tenure here to prove otherwise. which makes me question his DAWG, sadly.

I didn’t see the game maybe he got hurt but Slough was in the game in the second half when I checked the score.

That looks like a slip. I think he was thinking Darnold and typed Dalton.

I tend to disagree with you a good bit but not here. I think Bryce was fortunate to miss this game because it could have been really bad for him. That is a very good team we played that didn’t even play their best and dictated to us. Canales wasn’t helping poo with his running back foolishness. One thing I’ll say is maybe he would have been more conservative with Bryce and run the ball more but with Chuba getting 2.8 I don’t think it worked like it did with Dallas. I said in the predictions thread that I didn’t think it mattered who played QB we would likely lose the game and I still think that.

This ain't fantasy football.

Nah he sees the year out