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Why last 10 games? Nice cherry. Let's look at overall career and see how it looks. 2 division title 2 playoff wins. Go slurp Bryce some more you have left some on your chin

He looks to be the David Moore of the Vikings...while Moore is worse

That’s part of the reason I hated it. Beyond first-world problems. Why did we have to placate her when they could literally move back there in a few months lol

It's amusing how quickly some folks have moved from telling people to stop talking about Stroud to bringing him up in completely unrelated threads all on their own now. At the end of the day that Texans team still made our offense look putrid back in August. There's a long season ahead. You folks dunking on the Texans may want to buckle up.

Team game. QB Bryce Young vs #Texans QB C.J. Stroud's last 10 full games played: Pass attempts: Stroud 318, Young 319 Total yards: Stroud 2,274, Young 2,335 Total touchdowns: Stroud 9, Young 20 Interceptions: Stroud 8, Young 6 Sacks: Stroud 36, Young 22 Adjusted net yards per attempt: Stroud 4.62, Young 5.84 But keep hating on your own QB. Dork.

but Carson Wentz isn't a rookie and the Vikings just hung 48 on the Bengals last week. 0 yards. I would say it a combo of 2 things, AT is another year older and the Vikings have a solid TE in TJ Hock. and AT basically become a TE in Carolina that we over fed.

None of this changes the fact that he is at the end of his career and he's not walking back through the door. Besides. We needed to see Bryce without his crutch. And we have.

He was all Bryce had here. Just speaks to the lack of offensive fire power on this team.

Is it really revisionist history? or was the UNC/Belichick hire always an obvious bad move that some just opted to do what sports fans do and work about convince themselves something not smart would be okay. I mean, you could bump the thread from when Bill was first hired. It was always dumb. Bill isn't a college coach. The Panthers shouldn't hire Dabo if somehow Canales got fired and Dabo was able to be talked out of Clemson. I don't really need to give you a better name for Carolina to point out Dabo w/ the Panthers is just silly.

She could have moved without him and kept the money. She seems like a handful

Stoud has won the division 2 years in a row and won in the playoffs. Odd flex you are trying to pull. Cj has shown he can do it while with Bryce it's always excuses

At least his wife is happy

A lot of assumptions being thrown around in here. He hasn't played well. Impossible to say otherwise. But 15 targets in two games means he's shown something in practice. Trade value is at an all time low. Time to hold, and hope he can work it out. It's best for all of us if it does. Calling out the character and work ethic of a guy from behind a keyboard it is not really conducive to anything, especially when we truly don't have any facts here outside of his performance on the field.

this seems unfair and a little parasocial

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMFkQ98x/

It was a tiktok from David Newton https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMFkQ98x/

We don't typically have a raucous crowd by any stretch of the imagination, but it was pretty solid on Sunday. I do think the next step for the franchise would be to prioritize selling out, winning, and having a raucous crowd once the product on the field improves. You look at places like Denver with a waiting list, and the ability to remove the license of fans that constantly sell their tickets on the aftermarket. That's how you create a culture. I don't think Tepper is concerned with selling out, winning or having a raucous crowd. I think he's concerned with dolla bills y'all.

Not to burst your bubble but he was first in 2023 and 4th in 2024 on our team in YAC. Not trying in any way to suggest he is a YAC guy but 100% of the arguments you are making are basically invalid simply because his high production level here didn't have to do with his ability to be an elite WR. His production has been because he is frequently the only above average NFL receiver that we have had almost every time he has been on the field as a Panther. The exceptions are probably the short Dionte Johnson period we had and likely would have been TMac, were he still here.

Well most of their struggles have been playing better teams(Jax is arguable) so far. Combined opponent records of 7-2. Stroud's struggles have largely been lack of WR options(injuries), the extremely poor OL play(tied for 8th in most sacks, and really sloppy/poor offensive play overall. Not to say he isn't part of the issue. As for their seasons so far: Stroud: 76.9 QB Rating, 34.8 QBR, 64.0 PFF, 64.5 QBERT Young: 75.3 QB Rating, 36.3 QBR, 64.0 PFF, 66.9 QBERT They have both been similarly bad this season.

Same. Link won’t work for me either.

My personal opinion is I just do not see Adam Thielen representing a major difference in our offense. He has little to no YAC and regardless our QB is not creating big plays. Either way we would still be slogging our way down the field.

Im certain he would be contributing more here considering our WR situation. Thats just the way it is.

Well if we're being realistic the Panthers have been in perpetual free fall since we unceremoniously cut ties with Newton. Unfortunately it all begins with Tepper. And now after Tepper has made an embarrassment of himself for years we give people keys and anoint them this or that before they've really done anything. It's not helpful. But it's also not helpful to seemingly have a different set of standards and apply those unevenly. Realistically the actual face of the franchise should be held to the highest standard of anyone but it seems like that's reserved for everyone else including coaches. It's a recipe for further instability. But let it play out. If we know our Panthers. We know it's gonna be a long season.

I have heard ad nauseum that Stroud elevated his team as a rookie. Yet, Bryce has the better stats through the first three weeks of this season so far... what are the excuses for Stroud in year three?

The whole Falcons team had them a wonderful Sunday afternoon nap