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Gross was still good for a couple years and 1.5 of oher was solid.........uhhhhhh guess Im going to get shot on this Bell was not half bad as RT, fire away. Sure not a good LT, RT was average-ok league wise, imo. Chandler had no business on Offense, but that was herniay parting gift no cap space. I bet you also forget Williams was a good RT until the injury then Motown stepped into his RT spot. But for years Williams was good. gross/other -- white buffalo -- Kalil -- turner --williams/motown That's petty dang good my fren!! Chandler and Matt Kalil were full fails, but OL has 5 players....Most times cam had 4 solid-great ones and one that needed TE help at times.

dang, now I'm curious, what's your lowest package to trade for Tmac?

Long as Im right, mock away!! TE only has one choice and that's if he's even still ava. I told you this panthers team is IN for this year and watchout for WR cause it is valued and the top pool is deep. I believe some including yourself took note(hell I think I @ you to share), now the HC re-firms my crystal ball isn't crack'd... The wild card in all is the new bevell, I think hes already swinging a big stick and they are going to change some things. Mike saved tua from the same spot BY is in.....Bevell has a wealth of exp and ideas across many different systems including the one that turned Tua into a MVP candidate.

Mcderp also stopped the 20 year pats dynasty. I feel its not close either, mcderp easy third round KO

Tough. Ron Rivera is one of the few to be 2x Coach of the Year, 3 NFC South Titles, and he's gone to the Super Bowl. McDermott has been more consistent with a better winning percentage, and has 5 AFC East titles. Perhaps Ron's COTY and Sean's winning% even each other out.

So sadiq is good at screens and slants which Bryce is horrible at

Remember he wrote the article with a crayon

C+ on TMac? Lol what

I guess it's more of the "Or, One Idiot Doubles Down" side... TMac is great!

Relying on a guy that couldn't stay on the Raiders offensive line as our primary backup is beyond scary.

Dude, we just invested in two past first rounders on defense. Sure, we didn't draft them, but we acquired them in free agency. And it's not like Mike Jack is some bum out there.

Nah, dude. The only one that's actually long in the tooth is Not on, and he ain't even done yet. If Icky can't come back, then Walker will be extended. Walker is after all a better pass defender. We're not necessarily at the point where we need to be drafting first rounders who would likely be sitting on the bench; day two or three guys that can be developed could fill that need.

Im actually not going to be mad at all if we go WR in round 1.

I thought that was Mina Kimes interviewing

Would be mistake

We haven’t used a first on the defense since Bryce was here. And only one 2nd. If you look at what went into the offense, just to get Bryce alone was a fortune, they still owe that defense. And if Icky had not have happened I would be posting in caps that we need to spend the 1st pick on the D. It kills me not to do it, but that injury shifted everything.

Our starting oline looks good on paper. Even that is a bit of a reach given the additions, age and injuries. Problem is when someone inevitably goes down we are going to relying on some dude named Stone to step in. The Icky injury and the timing of it really mess up the overall plan for this team. I like walker but only as a stop gap and hopefully he returns to prior form. We just are a team with no depth anywhere. Its kindof wild when you think about it

Our O-line is pretty good on paper, and our D-line should be good in theory. We should be able to control the LOS (at least good enough for someone on the team to go off). We have put plenty of resources into the defense the last couple of offseasons.

Made a whole thread about sadiq weeks ago as the most logical pick if he's available and every just said no defense defense defense and Bryce sucks we need a Qb lol

He is a beast. Everyone has given up on him though. .

Most of what I see it would be nice to trade back a few slots and still get. I want to put the investment into the fronts though. That is where the game is controlled. People seem to want to make Bryce into a Stafford or something. Air Young. He is a game manager. People want to give him all this help, but if you really want to help him then build a team that can support a game manager. That means control the LOS, first order of business.

That flouts everything that free agency, a big board & BPA stands for. I could see if we were set at WR, which we aren't. I could see if Special Teams was set, which it ain't. XL was an apparent bust, and T-mac was a hit (I wonder why...). If I am skeptical about Dan Morgan and Dave Canales, I surely am not yet skeptical of Brandt Tilis. I think his addition and results alone should at least give the FA a little goodwill and some rope. Now whether Concepcion is worth a first (which I am highly skeptical about) is a totally different story.

Only if the OT has the grade. Some of you seem to be forgetting that the value HAS to be there, or what the hell are we doing?