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Beane turned around a franchise that was a perennial loser and in his 9 years running the show he's made the playoffs 8 times. He's been one of the most successful GMs during his tenure and folks here throwing shade at him makes zero sense. If Morgan can follow these footsteps, he will be a god in Carolina.

Agree. They absolutely need to build a more complete roster. But let's also acknowledge that they had the worst pass blocking interior oline in the NFL, and a receiving group highlighted by a 33 years old possession receiver. Those areas needed to be addressed for whoever you put back there. But agree with their approach after the 2023 season. You should do everything in your power to give the #1 pick in the draft every opportunity to succeed (maybe not panic spend for OGs). Particularly if you mortgage the farm to go up and get him. Not sure if it was saving face as much as improving a very bad roster. Now do I think they should have gone up to get Bryce (or CJ or anyone) in 2023? Heck no.

The Panthers tax is just the "terrible franchise" tax. It has existed forever. You get guys motivated by extreme money and ignore the fact that they won't win. For higher level competitors that want to win, they will just avoid bottom tier franchises entirely unless there are no other options available. That is basically us.

PFF has yet to perfect the formula for Big Time Catches (BTC) also don’t say “by that logic” it gives big “dying on stage while my wife cucks me” energy

I agree, hence why I have repeatedly said we need to cut Hunt in the 2027 offseason. He isn't elite but he has the third highest RG contract. That's insane. Plus Moton is very close to coming off the books. If we paid Linderbaum as the #1 overall center, he would still be significantly lower paid than Lewis, Hunt and Moton. This is why I keep stressing the need to do something at center. It the biggest bang for the buck on any NFL OL.

If you're a contender and have a legit QB, you can find some deals in FA. But every other signing is an overpay. I don't think there's any real evidence for the Panthers tax when you look at what every team pays for the top free agents. Everyone gets overpaid in FA. It's how it works.

Should be easy too. Weeks 7 and 8 are byes and week 14 and 15. Also every team plays a division game before and after their byes

The internet has called BS on Beane not wanting Coleman

Agree but we can't have an entire offensive line on big contracts.

After today’s disastrous press conference, McDermott looks like the hero and the owner (Pegula) and Beane like a pure mess that nobody will want to work with.

Most professional sports owners barely care if you show up because the TV money dwarfs the amount generated in the stadium. The NFL particularly is like that. If you look at NFL stadium trends, it's about adding "premium" features to raise the prices to the stratosphere and out of the hands of average folks. Also consider that the NFL prioritizes the richest people on the planet owning their teams. They aren't losing touch with the fans, they lost that years ago. It's about how much it takes before the foundation starts to crumble. Also, they all see it is coming in the US. That's behind the attempts to be global. The NBA will never fail because it is a global sport now. The NFL is desperately trying to achieve this because they are on a direct path to failure.

I'm at the point where if I can get anything for XL in a trade I'm moving him. Even if it's a late round conditional pick. I like the guy and was rooting for him but on terms of football getting him off the roster would be addition by subtraction. I like T-Mac and Coker on the outside, now just find a decent slot. The good thing about finding Coker as a UDFA in that class is that it takes some of the sting off of the XL bust pick if Coker essentially becomes what we were hoping for out of XL.

I'll also add that if you just replace Legette with Romeo Doubs, the WR core is a much more complete and cohesive unit.

You could be right but which position groups are better in Carolina? Maybe secondary with the upgraded version of Mike Jackson? Maybe WRs at the end of the season? DBs - CAR close ILBs - BUF not close DL - BUF close. CAR advantage interior DL. BUF advantage pass rushers Receivers - CAR really close. CAR WR at the end of season with Jalen Coker - not before. BUF TEs by a large margin. RBs - BUF not close OL - BUF not close

Yep. You gotta build something first. We haven't built anything. And I mean really build it. It isn't like Tampa became a serious option for ring chasers in the post Brady era despite "dominating" the NFC South. You have to build something veteran NFL players believe in. Not just a spot to get a massive paycheck.

@Zod really needs to add an LOL pie option

That's the NBA, not the NFL. These players will go where they can get the most money and also play/have a big role. Just like Thielen and Clowney did when they chose the Panthers. NFL free agency has always been about guaranteed money.

That isn't gonna be possible until 2028 at the earliest. He has a very freshly inked mega-deal. I do think he will eventually choose to go elsewhere. If they hire Brian Daboll, he will crater that entire franchise VERY quickly.

Hopefully the Panthers premium tax is coming down a bit since we made the playoffs we don’t overpay

Hey, I'll take a London Fletcher clone.

I think there needs to be a level of expectation for the players too that you're going to work on this in the offseason. We need to find QBs dedicated to the craft, not just those that are going to rely on their talent or whatever worked before or at the college level.

I don't think he'll go anywhere if they hire Brian Daboll.

We're the wrong environment right now. Ring chasers aren't coming here. Players are coming here for a payday. We need a few back to back winning seasons before we can start attracting the bigger name FAs at regular prices.

Well, I'm not "close" to that situation and really don't follow Hockey. But all I can say is is that I can't fault the man for thinking that a change was needed. He thought they had hit a wall. Sometimes a message gets stale and a change of scenery is needed. It could be the best thing for McDermott and the best thing for the Bills in the end.

Andrews is likely to chase a ring or retire. His tank is close to E. Mack is likely in ring chasing mode too. I will take either but I don't think we are a spot for formerly elite players to end.