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68. Tied with Jaxson Dart for the #2 rookie QB. Seems like Ward fell victim to being lumped in with the overall weak QB class when honestly he had the makeup both physically and from a stats perspective of a typical #1 overall QB. Meanwhile, Trevor "Generational" Lawrence had a 78 rookie rating and has a 74 rating in the coming game. LOL

Canales was talking Thornton up. Not familiar with him but it sounds like he's standing out.

Adam Thielen's one handed catch last year in OT against the Bucs was the best catch I have seen by a Panther in several years. To bad we wasted it.

Wonder what they have Tyler Shough at. 70? lol

Every draft would be wildly different redrafted a few years later. Rookie Madden ratings are pretty much entirely based on mock draft hype. The Cam Ward disrespect is REAL though. 72 for a #1 overall is wild.

GREAT play but the catch itself wasn't spectacular. Same with X Clown. That catch KB made though... oh wee mayne. I really thought we had one of this generation's special receivers after that play. Damn it...

It's definitely one of the better and more memorable catches. But the "best" IMO is undisputed because it has yet to be topped.

Those outside of Hunter seem mighty generous. But madden rarely gets it right in ratings in the first place. By the 2nd roster update of this season it will probably be more like it, I hope.

That catch he made in perfect bracket coverage between Sherman and Thomas who were probably the #1 CB and #1 FS in the league at the time honest to God might be the best single catch in Panthers history.

Someone needs to call up Ochocinco!! He controls the madden ratings!!

4 again with the mailbox. Like, c'mon dude. You're a rookie. You can't be calling for the ball like that. Probably got that from 19.

If Moton's knee is fine and he wants to continue to play, he should be kept as a career panther. I'm sure Brant and Morgan can find a way to make the deal work in favor for both sides.

Madden ratings are a popularity contest anyways.

We started out last season with two of the ugliest lopsided losses in franchise history after holding out our starters for most of preseason. And before that in camp our defense actually looked halfway formidable against our offense. That same defense ended up being one of the worst ever. Skepticism is justified until we see some good results early in the season whether folks like it or not. That comes with the territory of not having a winning season in going on 8 years now.

I still remember this game. I was so excited for our new WR. Could have been another Mike Evans. Sometimes guys just never fulfill their potential for a number of reasons. Sad but it's life.

Yep, that broke Benjamin with failure

Mr. QB School just doesn't realize that he's telling on himself needing a big ass window of a mile of separation to throw into.

Yep, all reports were out of that joint practice was that KB was the best player on the field and #2 wasn't even close. The combo of the ACL and losing his mom was just too much. He probably didn't have the mental makeup to be great for a long time but I really thing he could've been a David Boston type where he was absolutely dominant for a few years.

Thielen and TMac are gonna drive Mr. QB School insane this year. He hates WR that call for the ball with no separation. Although I guess that's understandable from a career backup lol.

He found another piece of pie. He found himself out of the league. He found himself a new career.

Man... what could've been... Still hurts to think about. When KB dominated Clemson to start the season I wanted the Panthers to take him for Cam and was so hype when they did. Then his mom passed and he just fell apart... I hope he's found peace.

Be careful, haters don't like being reminded that they hate.

I NEED THE REGULAR SEASON TO START IMMEDIATELY

I've been low-key keeping that kicker battle in the forefront. There certainly seems to be more misses than I'm used to (hell, Joe Person feeling the need to clarify), but it is practice, and I guess the skinny posts are skinny for a reason. There could be a better name, by the way. What about "precision posts?"

Typical of bigger WRs. KB was similar in that way. I think T-Mac is faster than KB but definitely doesn't have KB's physicality. He definitely has the better natural hands though KB was one of those odd guys who seemed like his hands got better the harder the catch was.