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Then you have to trade him, letting him simply play out his 4rth year and the letting him walk would be colossally moronic if that is what they are suggesting.

By the end of the year he will be #1

It all hinges on the initial conversations between Tepper and Canales. Did canales swear he could fix Bryce and produce, or did Tepper tell him to try and that if it didn't work out he would get a shot with his own guy?

The media is trying to save face just like the team is. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong anymore. So you have to understand that and take as such. It doesn't matter anymore because as John Foxx famously uttered, it is what it is.

I dunno man, XL just doesn't seem to care enough/have it. He wasn't lighting things up with Dalton last year, either.

I Pooed but unfortunately your right I forgot about the shoulder.... Also love stank not a fan of him at C though hes even smaller than aho.

"He's not the problem - he's a game manager, it's the people around him". We traded three first round picks for the guy. Even if he was a game manager (he's not - just look at those drives Dalton led on Sunday and compare them to everything outside of that first scripted drive by Young - it's night and day, and Dalton is waaaaashed), the fact we gave up so much for him absolutely makes him the problem. Teams would hesitate to trade three first round picks for Mahomes or Allen ffs.

There’s no fuging way You’d think Bryce would be smart enough to say the right things about competition and excited to earn the spot blah blah blah, but when he was benched last year his camp started feeding rumors to Russini that teams wanted to trade for him. He's a messy little entitled bitch and he’ll go down kicking and screaming for sure.

This is a pretty good commentary, though I think the whole comment on contradictory approaches glosses over / ignores the obvious: Canales is in not in charge of personnel outside the offense, and Bryce is SEVERELY limiting what they can do.

Lol. I’ll never understand this. Wishing that we end up with worse talent at the draft seems counterproductive to the goal. I’ll give you some examples: 1. We missed out on Herbert because of 1 win. Love Brown but having a real QB would be nice. Finished 5-11 and lost Herbert to SOS tiebreakers. 2. 1 win versus Rivera and we got Horn instead of pick 3, which is where SF gave 3 firsts to trade up for Lance. Here’s who we could have gotten instead: 2021 #12 Micah Parsons, 2022 #29 George Karlaftis (we wouldn’t draft a G), #102 - Assume we waste that, and 2023 #29 based on what it seemed like we liked, either Joey Porter Jr or maybe La Porta. Heck, maybe we use Mingo’s pick and move up from #29 to get a real WR between Njigba-Smith, Addison, Flowers or Johnston. Might have even been enough to avoid the XL fiasco and get DeJean or Frazier. Anyway, you can knock tankers all you want but having Herbert, Parsons, Karlaftis a real WR over Mingo could have changed our team. Don’t even care if Rhule was still here because we’d have made the playoffs in spite of him, especially if the real WR caused us to not draft XL. People want to stick their heads in the sand and call the draft random but there is undeniable proof that this team would be way better if we just went 4-12 instead of 5-11 in 2019 and 2020.

I've got our only shot at wins as the Jets and the Saints. I'm not confident we even win those. The Dolphins and Cowboys will beat the brakes off this team.

Bingo. Hit up the Vikings for Howell. Hit up the Chargers for Lance. Hit up the 49ers for Jones. A competent NFL QB can be found if we try. Just staunch the bleeding.

Picking up the option on Bryce's contract would be absolutely insane. Dumping another $26M guaranteed into this failed experiment would be the dumbest thing we could do.

How could it not be. There's only so much blame for this mess you can place on Young. When things outside of and not remotely related to the qb start to stand out, Charlotte we have a problem.

Yeah, playing the Bucs the last game of the year might be an accidental win because they will be resting starters for the playoffs. Looking at our schedule though, I'm not confident we beat the Dolphins or Cowboys at home. After that, I think a home win against the Saints might be our last win since I assume we won't win a road game this year

I'm not ready to kick Legette to the curb just yet. If anything I'm super impressed with Coker and T-Mac for producing with this QB. Look at the TD Evans caught on Sunday - Young doesn't make that play. Insert a competent NFL QB into this system and I think we're all signing a different tune.

kaye has always been way more critical of the panthers then the past observer writers. I love his style

So much for that - Minnesota gave him the brinks truck to stay there

why is anyone holding on to this "change of scenery" bullshith with bryce just say he can't play no one was saying The Golden Calf of Bristol needed a change of scenery; he just got invited to Patriots camp as a fug you to reporters then faded away.

I agree. Send Tepper a letter to let him know.

We have a real shot at the 3rd pick as it stands right now. But realistically we will be picking 8 or 9 as we usually do.

If I were a betting man, I would go all in on this prediction.

if a charlotte observer writer is now criticizing bryce and canales, as tepid as the criticism is, that's an ominous sign.

We literally went to a Super Bowl with an NFL Europe backup QB. LOL We need to look everywhere for upgrades. Free agency, draft, potential low value trades. Looking for THE savior led to this Bryce Young debacle.

This is it in a nutshell. The only thing they do know is there's no way they should pick up his 5th year option. That is an absolute proven fact. They shouldn't even debate it. Its completely off the table. They better be scouting every qb option available in the coming offseason.