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Nate Tice Nails the Limitations of the Offense
HeelsPanthersCanes replied to Panthering's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't disagree, but the way today's game is coached and ref'd DBs are at a huge disadvantage. To me that puts the difference between being elite and being good enough to survive in the league as marginal. Look at Sauce Gardner, he's completely crippled by the rules, which is why he leads the league in penalties. Chris Gamble was a stud for us. He would never see the field today as he'd be a 5 yard and automatic first down liability on every play. -
Basically Bill Belichick is a really shitty GM. He was a shitty GM in the NFL and he's being a shitty GM in college. As soon as good aging vets were no longer willing to come play for a discount to chase a ring after they chased Brady off all the years of poor drafting got exposed and they targeted and paid a bunch of guys who just aren't power conference caliber starting players. We brought in a bunch of guys to start that other power conference teams were looking at as depth pieces.
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You know what's worse about the QB situation?
kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, that's why I say KJ Jefferson. Similar profile and success earlyish. NFL Draft radar guy and then it drops off precipitously to him being a UDFA in this past draft. -
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micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
To be fair I don't think the book is closed on Anthony Richardson. I probably would rather have him today than Bryce because of upside. He is still extremely young. Decision making and completion percentage can be improved holding a clipboard. Bryce isn't growing 7 inches getting half a second faster or growing a rocket arm tomorrow. I always say give me the tools you can't teach and let coaching figure out what to do with the rest. Now him stay healthy is a different can of worms.. but I don't think he's unsalvageable. -
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LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, he's a tough evaluation. He obviously has all the physical tools but is he an NFL QB? So much of the evaluation is going to come down to the interview process and that's the part of the process that we have no insight into beyond the rumor mill. For every Josh Allen there's probably a dozen Anthony Richardsons and you have to use that interview process to figure out who's who. Now Sellers is a better passer at this stage than either of those guys were, but you get what I'm saying -
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kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I would hate to be getting the current product, is what I will say. Is he a dude or is he KJ Jefferson? -
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LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm on the fence about Sellers. I wish SCar had a better OL to give him more of a chance but I don't know. I'm not out on him but I'm definitely not sold either. I expect him to enter the draft next year because someone will take a chance on his talent in the 1st but I'd honestly prefer he play another year of college and hit the portal and find a better situation. Or for SCar to hit the portal and build an OL. -
Under the Hood: The Panthers' Unserious Operation (tAFS Video)
csx replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
"explanation of why" -
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kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think there is a set rule about when to start a young QB. Some are ready early, some need some time to learn and some just never get there. I keep beating this horse to death but I firmly am in the camp that it isn't how we are or aren't developing anyone, it's that we don't have any fuging clue how to pick guys that CAN develop in the first place. -
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kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Mac Jones is piling up evidence of both Shanahan making QB's look better than they actually are and also that Purdy contract was probably ultimately unnecessary. -
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SmokinwithWilly replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think we need to stop worrying so much about finding another immediate starter. Whoever we draft we need to do this the right way. 1st year, clipboard unless an injury dictates otherwise. We've seen time and time again how much better these guys do just having a year to get acclimated to the NFL game and climate. My thought for next year. Find a FA QB to run DC'S system because I think you have to give him year 3 for any possible future hires to even remotely consider Carolina. Then if DC shows serious improvement as a HC, let him draft a QB that meets his criteria, use the bridge while his carries the clipboard, and in the meantime, spend some capitol on defense, and get rolling. If DC doesnt work in year 3, show him and Morgan the door, clean the whole damn house out of rats, and build this place the right way from the top, starting by locking Dave and Nicole in a luxury resort in Luxembourg, the French Riviera, or in some Buddhist monastery. Just keep them away from daily operations and leave me the checkbook. -
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kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
More like the miming responses to questions when he was being asked about Gabriel starting. It's funny but it's also a little childish and immature. Just be bland and generic in those "gotcha" attempts. Don't make it more of a thing because they are actively trying to make it a thing. He has been a sideshow due to his actions(draft party, pre-draft team interviews, etc) but the media WANTS this to be a distraction so you have to be savvy enough to recognize this and avoid it. I was a huge Deion fan but Deion got to be Deion because of what he did on the field. Maybe chill on the public interactions like that until you make the name. Then be as much your true self as you want to be. Until that happens, it just opens you up for a ton of criticism. Rightly or wrongly, it's just part of the game. - Today
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kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean....Bryce has to be a 4.8 40 at best. His mobility is pretty limited FOR a guy of his size, TBH. Russell and Kyler were 4.5-4.6 guys. I also question his field reading abilities. I don't think you accidentally end up with a 60% career completion percentage with an extremely low YPA average. Bryce ain't completely the problem but he is far from NOT being the issue either. -
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micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think sellers is a dude.. -
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micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think highly reguarded QBs or prospects in general who fall for character concerns or even maybe injury worrys at a certain point are like value bargain bin sales.. to many examples.. Tunsil and his bong thing.. all pro.. Tavondre sweat the Texas defensive tackle who was a brick wall fell to the second round and his been a stud.. Payton wilson for the love of God we to Wallace over him.. and watching potential top 6 pick will johnson who was projected to us at certain points fall to the second round and we just said ihey rather have nic scorton (made we would have had to give up what a 5 or worse to move up 2-3 spots) is criminal. -
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LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm worried about next year's QB crop but I'm not in panic mode about it yet. There's still time for some guys to stand out. -
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TD alt replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well for me, that's the worst thing. We had an opportunity to bring in Daniel Jones or a Mac Jones (for example), and we didn't even do it. We probably would've fúcked it up, but still. Fitterer is gone. Ron is gone. We need to get to a point where "competition" is more than rhetoric. We need to stop giving vets undue preferential treatment, stop draft position bias, and just play the better players. -
Under the Hood: The Panthers' Unserious Operation (tAFS Video)
csx replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Their expectation of wht the offense isnt good is because they dont have good stats. Well duh. They dont have good stats because they arent good. Their analysis lacks analyzing. -
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raleigh-panther replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yep Time to cut bait -
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LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
He might carve out a long career as a backup but not as a top backup. I would bet a lot of money you'll never see Bryce have a game like Mac Jones had on Thursday night. Plenty of guys carve out long careers by being decent enough while being great teammates. I think that's the path Bryce is staring down. -
I mean until Thursday when we show the Devils who their daddy is.
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mrcompletely11 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
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TD alt replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean, he really hasn't done all that much to be a distraction. Has he been perfect? No. But he hasn't done much. Really. When I started researching it, I was expecting all this "stuff," but the worse thing that he has done, which is not directly related to football (so not really what we are talking about) is speeding. As far as football-related antics, there's not a whole lot there since he's become a pro. A lot of it is just speculation (like Rex Ryan's recent criticism) that may be based upon something or nothing at all. -
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fanpanther replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
the panthers wanted 0 competition for bryce. but at this point would prrfer to see an udfa qb -
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Panthera onca replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
It would have hurt Bryce’s widdle feelings to bring in competition at QB.
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