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The early games today don't look like much but there's some good games starting at 3:30.

Two really good games last night. I fell asleep during halftime Oregon State/Houston but randomly woke to catch the last couple minutes and OT. I was hoping Oregon State would pull it off to get a W instead of falling to 0-5.

Mcshay was on the bill simmons pod yesterday and breaks down a lot of the qb prospects. Loves the oregon kid, still likes lsu kid a lot as well. Not high on Allar at all. With Fernadez he says he plays in RPO quick decision offense and its hard to evaluate him because of the 30 throws a game maybe 5 are nfl worthy. But he is big strong and mobile. I absolutely will be watching Indiana vs iowa today

Please show me a post where I am making an excuse for stroud. He isnt playing well for sure, but you see, what you absolutely are either being willfully obtuse and simple too stupid to understand is that Stroud has shown the talent to not only win his division but to win in the playoffs. With bryce...........well you know how what he can and cant do.

Walk away with Moore and Sadiq and that’s a big win. I doubt Moore declares yet and Sadiq probably goes in the late first as of now. Mateer is interesting because that injury to his hand could make him drop more than he should. Still going in the first though as of now. Plus QBs always get overdrafted.

Jags got themselves a good one

I guess some coaches are smarter than others It sure seemed like they knew what the Panthers were going to do beforehand and this goes beyond just film study kudos to them From the Athletic Quote . As the undefeated San Francisco 49ers prepare to host the 2-1 Jacksonville Jaguars, 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh was asked Thursday what the biggest challenge would be, specific to the Jaguars. “Jacksonville is a very young but a very talented group,” Saleh said. “(Jaguars head coach) Liam (Coen) and his staff, a couple of guys coming from Minnesota, they’ve got a — legally — really advanced signal-stealing type of system, where they always find a way to put themselves in an advantageous situation. They do a great job of it. They formation you, they just try to find any nugget they can. So, we’ve got to be great with our signals and we’ve got to be great with our communication to combat some of the tells that we might give on the field,” Saleh continued. “They’re almost elite in that regard, that whole entire (coaching) tree, from Sean (McVay) to Kevin O’Connell to all of those guys. They all do it. So, there’s challenges. They’re going to catch us in some situations where they have the advantage and we’ve just got to play good, sound fundamental football and do our best to out-execute them.” Coen was asked about Saleh’s comments on Friday. “I’m not going to speak on that fully right now,” Coen said. “(We) have a huge game for us coming up this weekend. We’ve got a great defense that we’ve got to go and attack, and that’s where our whole mindset and mentality is right now.” Coen was pressed further, with a reporter asking if figuring out “whatever tell your opponent has” is part of a coach’s job. end quote

Sour grapes? Bro, I’m the guy that was just arguing King is THE best QB in the ACC the other week. You straight up manifesting something here lol. I merely said they need King to stay on field and healthy….and that is something to question if you talking about a GT run. Because he gets hurt. A lot. I’ll take GT over any team in the ACC if King is ready to rock and roll. He is the best player.

Was going to post pretty much the same thing, the next few weeks will dictate

Stroud will be fine. Yeah they need to fix his OL they stripped apart and yeah he is currently playing bad with his new OC and no OL. The main difference is Stroud showed what he can be for a whole season his rookie year, plus went to the playoffs in each of his first two seasons. I believe he is 2-2 in the playoffs at a very young age for a franchise that was the 2nd worst when they drafted him. This season looks bad but it’s also very early. I will say that this season so far gives you a glimpse of how Stroud would look here. It’s still very much a team sport and always will be.

Totally fair assessment + criticisms. The breaking down of abilities though... he really is and has been processing things at a high level. The rookie season to forget, while many casual fans were upset that their eye test was being failed, many folks that know ball saw the insanity taking place with the highly touted coaching staff that end up being the biggest bust we have seen in a long time, an injury-riddled OL, and subpar weapons. Those were called excuses then and now. Hell, even the criticisms about Bryce's arm strength seem to revolve around plays where he was unable to set his feet and deliver the ball. Not always, but there's been enough video showing stuff for example how many catchable deep balls thrown that aren't due to receivers not holding on. The difference in how the team handled the blitz in week 3 makes me wonder how much of those first two weeks' blitz pick-up issues were on Corbett. I think Stroud should be fine so long as he doesnt regress to how he was in college for all but the Georgia game. Pressure would really, really rattle him. That was the main reason why 3wks before the draft I put Bryce as 1a and CJ as 1b. Before anyone thinks that I'm just arguing to be right, I also thought that Max Duggan was a mid-round steal so being right clearly isnt that important to me as much as it is figuring out where I got it wrong (the league just wasnt ready for Max's greatness... ).

Goddamn that is a hefty MFer.

I think ultimately Stroud passes the "eye test" so it's a matter of whether he will get it together again. Would a change of scenery help, etc? If he keeps declining, you have to wonder if he was just a flash in the pan early. That can happen to rookies. Poor Bryce......it's just hard to really pin anything down that he does well. If you really start breaking down individual QB specific abilities, it's hard to say he does anything at even an average NFL starting level. I think Bryce's leash ends up ultimately being shorter because he just doesn't have the advantage that CJ does with coming out of the gate hot in his rookie season. Also, DC didn't draft him and has already benched him.

The luchador in question.

No tailgate, no excuses! (The real excuse is that a cat jumped on my balls at 4am and I haven't been able to go back to sleep because the fat poo keeps climbing back up on the dresser that he leapt from no matter how many times I take him down or what I put to block the path. More sleep deprivation than alcohol poisoning at the moment )

That depends on the look of the season. If things are looking like a divisional run, maybe we should be buyers(this is heavily dependent on scenario). If things are looking like it's all falling apart, we should be unloading as many bad assets as possible.

Or DJ Johnson? XL is likely a 5th as a CEILING not a floor.

Looks like CJ got carried by his teammates because in year 3 he has less passing yards and TDs than Bryce with more INTs. Full disclosure: I think CJ is fine and understand the issues with the team but am enjoying watching the same folks say "NO EXCUSES!!" for Bryce snap their spine in two bending over backwards to give CJ those same "excuses" they denied Bryce. Kungfu doesnt do that, but considering how much you advocate for passing yards as a primary QB metric for success... well...

It's a little early to be drinking(unless you are tailgating). But they do basically split the two metrics, so it's a sinking/floating turds argument.

The stats that matter and aren't made up (according to the Huddle): Stroud: 599yds, 2 TDs, 3 INTs, 0-3 Young: 603yds, 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 1-2 Lack of WRs? Poor OL play? Bad playcalling? Sounds a lot like EXCUSES for a 3rd year QB that isn't playing up to their #2 overall draft status!

It's really unbelievable as much as the owners make. That's one long ass flight with at least one connection. Wow. That seems like a move Tepper would make.

Big ass guys in coach? That's a nightmare for everybody.

DJ probably doesn't want to return to a such a lousy franchise. A contender, like possibly KC if they don't fall completely apart, would be where I'd be trying to go if I were him. Buffalo? Ravens?

Where in the world did that post say he has a rocket arm? The most it said was that his arm isn't weak but that his mechanics cause issues. How in the Hell did you get, "He has a rocket arm and no issues!" out of that? It quite literally lists a shortcoming. No wonder the haters are so irrational. Y'all aren't even reading for comprehension anymore but instead just to respond to an argument that you've already lost.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9k1KdDUJM/?igsh=MTNpYnNsc3ZvZ2c5bw== The play that put them into a REM cycle.