CPcavedweller

There is a difference between being in on it and knowing. It's sort of like elections, you don't need all 50 states to be in on throwing something. You just need three or four key precincts throughout the entire country to change the outcome. Likewise, to throw a game in the NFL, you just need two or three people who don't even need to know. Now I'm not saying either of these things happen. I'm just saying that to get the result, you only need relatively microscopic keys.

Higgins information is easy to find. He dropped because of personal conduct issues but otherwise he would've been a very high draft pick. I think he should get run over Robbie(y) Anderson personally, especially if Baker is starting.

Yeah, when you target and have some info that the NFL is on your side regarding ref's, you WOULD KNOW YOU fuging BEESH.

We just saw 2 minutes of drills. There isn't much you can take away other than Sam looked like the third best QB in those drills.

Good. He can run drills. Can he memorize the playbook and opposing defenses? Can he command the huddle and the team? There is much more here than his physical abilities which literally no one has ever doubted.

Really? How much proof do you have of this at the NFL level? He's had two seasons, one of which was during a global pandemic with dumbass restrictions in place. So in reality he has had ONE YEAR that was somewhat normal. You have zero evidence to support this. More Huddle Bullshit.

Matt started his throw earlier as well. I don't think anyone is debating Matt's physical ability to throw a football. People are saying that an NFL playbook is far different than having NO playbook in college. So let him sit a year like Patrick Maholmes did and like Trey Lance did. What do we stand to gain from him being potentially hurt in year 1, or worse, develop bad habits, in what's probably a .500 year?

There is a reason for this, of course. The Vikings are actually running installs right now, in parts apparently.

I was...one of them... Poor 18 year old me was duped, along with almost everyone else. Clausen is one of the biggest failures I've ever seen as a player. Good dude, just fell completely off the face of the Earth from college to the NFL.

No "old schooler" ever said "show up early and then do nothing". The assumption is rhat your effort is good along with showing up early. Why kids think they know all is something I'll never undunderstand. Or especially now where they are taught everything that came before them is bad in some way, shape, or form. Pro tip, being early is still a good thing in our culture. A lack of effort was never acceptable except, ironically, in unionized work. That aside, no boomer said show up early and sit on your ass.

Every injury I've seen him get happened after being hit. He then continues to play and eventually leaves. Obviously the Hamstring was different but that, again, comes from overuse. So you reduce the hits on CMC and you likely extend his season.

We already saw, he still checks down every opportunity he gets. It may have been one day, but it's one day that's a continuation of 4 years. Baker is looking to score, Sam is looking for a safety valve. Give me BAKER. I didn't even fuging want Baker or the trade, I saw it as pointless. Yesterday opened my eyes to the difference between Sam and Baker. One will get CMC hurt again, one will actually allow CMC to run a route without having the ball thrown to him. Bakers ability to see the field and push the ball downfield also opens up the playbook whereas Sam's style contracts it.

He would've checked down and got CMC killed.

Dude, he's already checking down every chance he's getting with the 1's while Baker has been pushing the ball vertically. It's the same song and dance with both Baker and Sam. Baker pushes the ball downfield and takes some risks but also hits big plays, Sam is Teddy Two Gloves in terms of checking down. Want to extend CMC's season? Go with Baker. He won't check it down 14 times a game and put all that wear and tear on CMC.

Coach Fitt said the QB competition begins Monday. So in a way, you're right, there hasn't been one. It starts when the pads are on they say.

I'm confused, what's wrong with our camp? Sure, the Panthers have been relatively poor since Cam got hurt in 2018, but what is wrong this year, specifically?

So you know more than the blue check who knows people in the league? Naw, ya don't.

What QB is good with in-face pressure? You could insert any name in football and say "not good". So Brady is the GOAT, and being poor with in face pressure isn't a flaw, it's expected.

It's easy enough to find out if someone doesn't have what it takes. So it wasn't about getting better or not getting better this past year, it was about Joe Brady not having enough experience for the next three years. So cut bait now and grow the program with someone else.

In the time scale of human history and culture, 1976 wasn't that long ago. Being at practice early is likely smiled upon, if you're at home during the week and are commuting to the facility. During training camp when everyone is getting ready in the locker room together, it doesn't matter at all. So yes, being early is good if it's in season. Staying late is good in season and possibly during TC depending on the schedule. But being early to the field during TC doesn't matter, especially if it's only 5 minutes before everyone else and everyone is utilizing their time properly.

10 minutes early? Inconsequential.

I don't think anyone is saying that. What people are saying is that Baker is doing things that Sam can't do in shorts. Yesterday, Sam's practice consisted of check down after check down which is all we've seen since Cam hurt his shoulder midway through 2018. Baker may actually prolong CMC's season because he WON'T check down. There may be some sacks or INT's every now and again but the ability to push the ball downfield and not settle for CMC will help the team over the course of 19 to 20 games.

It should've been more than 100 times. So more than once is not good enough.

The stats of how Baker performed with the 1's today versus Sam yesterday are very telling.

Baker is better than Darnold and I bet Darnold is not even on the team at the end of August.