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If they have a 2015 defense and BY leads them to a top 10 pick, his days would be numbered. But no QB is going out there making perfect passes and reads every play. Can't expect to win a lot of games when every TD takes 15+ plays. Gotta have some explosive players on offense.

Yeah... right play, bad execution.

Think you guys are missing the point here. Don't think anyone is saying that a WR has to definitely be drafted at 19. I think we all are saying they shouldn't remove the position as an option if he's BPA, since it really is a position of need. As much as backup OT, backup DT, or FS. And technically XL was a 2nd and 5th. They traded up from 33 to 32 for the 5th year option. They gave up 33 and 141 for 32 (XL) and 200. Made sense at the time. They just picked the wrong WR.

Ok. But that was only because of injury. They already had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Jalen McMillan (not to mention Bucky). They drafted Egbuka and Tez last year. Carolina currently has TMac and Coker. After that there's XL, David Moore, Jimmy Horn and Tremayne. Coker is injured as much or more than Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.

In year 1 and 2? Yes. There is no real speed on this team offensively. Not saying anyone is slow. But they're more "fast enough" than actually fast. Plus 3 of the last 5 OROYs have been WRs. They were all 1st rounders. Remember who was neck and neck with TMac for OROY last season? Egbuka. He was WR3 for the Bucs.

I don't think that's realistic. Carolina ain't San Francisco (scheme and playcalling), Minnesota (WRs), or Seattle (all of the above, plus an insane defense). Just play consistently well. Command the offense with hot routes, smart audibles and protection adjustments. Take more deep shots when they're there. Make less foolish plays, particularly fumbles on your own side of the field. The rest of the team has to catch up with SF, MIN and SEA before we can expect much more.

I'm with you. Get the best player on your board at a position of need, where he'll start or have opportunities to make significant contributions to the team - this season. Same for second round. Third round is where you can maybe start to think about projects for the future. Kind of like Princely last year. Can't believe everyone is so against a WR in the first because of Xavier Legette. He was the 32nd pick (the last pick of the first) and really not a first round talent. So if they waited until the 33rd pick, then it would be ok? Now if they would have drafted McConkey, then this wouldn't make sense. Then again, it wouldn't be a position of need.

Lol. Any reason to throw digs at this guy. I didn't say he was built to do it. I said he was successful every time he's tried. That means he can do it. That's the opposite of fantasy. That's reality. Steve Smith wasn't built to be a jump ball WR either. But he did it at a high clip. For the record, I'm not saying BY is the level of QB as Smitty was as a WR. Just an example of size not being the only component.

The point is you're saying he can't. He did and was successful every attempt.

Isn't Bryce like 2 for 2 on QB sneaks.

Attitude aside, Makai would be BPA at 19. There's no question.

I don't think anyone would argue that Bryce is even remotely on Cam's level. Tools wise, I don't think anyone has ever been better as a QB. Damn Madden Create-a-Player.

I wouldn't call it monumentally stupid. Probably a stretch for the player, but not the position. A WR there is insurance for a very thin group. The Panthers can have as many as 4 or 5 WRs on the field at the same time, but only 2 are real threats to even consistently make the catch. None are real threats to break a tackle or make a guy miss and take it to the house. If one of those 2 go down... If that pick (whoever he is) has 60+ receptions, 600+ yards, and 4+ TDs, then is he still a bad pick in your opinion? Compared to a DT that'll likely take 3 seasons to really become a guy. For DT comparison, Mason Graham had 28 tackles and 0.5 sacks. Walter Nolen had 8 tackles and 2 sacks. Derrick Harmon had 11 tackles and 3 sacks. For safeties, Nick Emmanwori had 56 tackles and 1 INT. Malaki Starks had 52 tackles and 2 INTs. Biggest problems with the defense was pass rush and coverage LB. They have been addressed with young expensive knowns. Not unknown rooks. This isn't about Bryce Young. It's about improving the roster. If BY flops this year, his replacement will be drafted in 2027. They can't let that guy come into the same horrible situation the previous guy did.

The closest thing to an offensive weapon that can run away from defenders is a 3rd year UDFA that has missed 12 games in 2 years (soft tissue injuries) and ran a 4.6 at the combine. If they aren't targeting a guy later in the draft, and KC is there in the first, then it makes sense. We can call him a 3rd WR, but he'd get plenty of touches every game on offense and special teams. Any OT at 19 will be a project that may or may not be ready by next season.

WR has to be on the table if he's the best player still on their board. This team has not had a good receiving group in forever. They weren't horrible when Coker came back last year but you can't count on him. He misses like 6 games a season and takes another 4 to get in game shape. If he or TMac go down, the offensive weapons become horrible again. You can't win games if you have to count on XL, Tremayne, Moore or Horn.

He does have some wiggle, but he has some serious wheels too. One of those guys where the game speed is much faster than the 40 time. He runs away from coverage and out of tackle angles. He's definitely an "if we're even, I'm leavin" type of WR.

Really feel like Sadiq is the XL of TEs. He's a freakish athlete, but does he fit the current QB? Not sure he does. Actually I'm sure he doesn't. Hard pass. Concepcion is a much better fit, and a much bigger need. Carolina needs a guy that scares defenders with speed and quickness. Haven't had a guy do anything with a screen or short pass since DJ Moore. Well, there was that one time Laviska Shenault caught the Saints slipping but he wasn't much of a WR.

I know it sounds bad, but they aren't addressing the position in FA with any level of success - unless Coker can stay healthy. And let's be honest, XL shouldn't have been drafted in the 1st. If they would have drafted McConkey instead like everyone here wanted, then a WR this year wouldn't make any sense. But as it stands now, if WR is BPA, then I think they'll do it. Gambling on Metchie and/or Horn may be dangerous. And Coker is really a slot that's playing alot of snaps outside out of necessity.

Sounds good in theory, but in reality rookies are a lot more of a crap shot than vets. They have not leveled out the FA imbalance. The defense has been poured into the last 2 seasons. The offense picked up 2 guards and a RB. The defense has an entire new defensive line sans Derrick Brown, completely new LBs - twice, Moehrig and Mike Jack. They've overhauled and upgraded every position except Derrick Brown, Jaycee and FS.

I think I agree with everything here. Though I do think something needed to be done with the offensive guards situation from 2023, Hunt and Lewis contracts were overkill. My point was they were not brought in to help fix Bryce Young. They were brought in to help evaluate him and to address a huge glaring hole of a weakness on the team. Every QB's kryptonite is immediate pressure up the middle. Dalton had good numbers against the Seahawks that season, but he was absolutely demolished that game. No way he would have lasted another 3 or 4 games.

Agree. I think a nickel type is still in play. Also think a WR could come in too. Either move Coker into the slot, or move a new guy there.

Haha!!! That's true. Also carry Tomahawks, ballistic missiles, fighter jets, VSTOL aircraft, etc., but none of them clog up the crappers.

Even Luke wasn't the best at beating blocks from interior olinemen. His super power was getting to the point before the block got to him.

I agree with protecting the QB. But you have quite a few that won't let the Hunt and Lewis signings go. It was coming off a ridiculously bad performance by offensive guards in 2023. Morgan did the same in for the interior DL in 2025 when they gave up the most rushing yards ever. And again this season with pass rush when they had the worst pressure rate in the NFL.

Etienne didn't really return punts in college. He did return kickoffs though. Those are very different jobs. Hard to ask a guy to learn a new position in the pros. Kind of like moving a guy to OT when he played DT in college. And then starting him as a rookie.