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Yeah but Dak is a top 10ish QB. Bryce has been a bottom 5 QB. They are not remotely the same. You have to go in there with some kind of justification for what you're demanding. He has the team record for passing, and he's been attributed to a lot of GWDs. But Dan can easily come back with every other stat. He ain't getting that kind of money from any team right now. And agree a 5th round QB makes sense for development.

Just looked it up. It was 76 his first season! He was sacked over 200 times in his first 60 games with Houston! That's pretty brutal man. And in his case, quality is even worse than quantity. He had a few hits where he was absolutely demolished. I remember feeling sorry for that dude. He took a beating almost every game.

Bryce Young absolutely could not demand top QB money. There is no friggin way he'd go into Dan's office asking to be paid like Mahomes. I'm not even worried about that. Thinking 30-35 if they extended him now. But I would not do that now. He'll play next year after thay pick up his 5th year option. He's not delusional.

Carr was actually a great prospect. He had it all. Houston broke him. So bad that he NEVER recovered. Honestly always felt that's what was going on with our #1 pick QB. Hopefully he's finally getting his confidence back now. Hopefully.

We've had at least 4. Carr Cam Baker Bryce

Has it really come to that? Bryce lovers vs Bryce haters? I don't love him or hate him so what am I? Is there an Independent party?

I don't know man. He definitely have a great block for Corum to get into the endzone Sunday. But agree, he's been much better lately as the entire defense has.

So similar to Cam, where he just couldn't make throws that came with ease in the past. Body gave out on him. Mind was willing, but...

He played left guard next to Ickey in college. He's much more comfortable there and appears a competent NFL player on that side.

That fact that he had a bad game wasn't the issue. Coming off Tommy John and imploding is why he shouldn't have been extended.

Thirded...

Hahaha. I think they do want him to be successful but it's more like the Steph Curry effect. They want normal humans to think they can actually be NFL players.

You're right. I remember 2 years ago a bunch of Cowboys fans were complaining about Dak. Same with Ravens fans and Lamar. Like they legit wanted to replace them. I just sat there like... huh?!

Actually appears that you're trying way too hard to discredit any thing positive Bryce Young does. Just said the same stats would be fine for the award if it was by another player, but because it's Bryce it isn't good enough. He was hidden all game sans a few plays. Come on. You have to see what you're doing. Nobody here is saying Bryce is the guy yet. He's put up some absolute stinkers. But he's improving and if he has a good game, then he has a good game. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. Everything is either a bad game or comes with a caveat to you. What did you think about his 450 yards game against ATL? Gonna go out on a limb here and guess you'll say he only plays well against ATL and most of his yards were from YAC. Unreal...

If Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes had the same stats with the same throws on 4th down, would you have the same opinion?

That was Carolina vs Atlanta in the last game of the season last year. Went all out to spoil the Falcons

Didn't they split with the Saints and Falcons last year? It can happen.

So the NFL is recognizing Bryce's game, but his "fans" are saying he isn't worthy. Lawd make this make sense. Now I see what Smitty meant. Geez!

Big passing yards usually come with big YAC. Teams are playing alot more cover 2 and 3 nowadays. Panthers are just now figuring out they should take shots deep when the defense is in 0 or 1.

I know we want to consistently see more yards. I do too. But 175 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs can win games. Heck, it actually is for Carolina this season.

I absolutelyagree. I also want better than TMac right now, better than Coker and Legette. I want better than Evans and Sanders too. Those players aren't great. They're below average to good right now. But I do believe they can all improve as they get more experience along with their HC/OC. I guess where I differ from the consensus is that I see BY improving. Just as his targets are. His list of dumb ish is diminishing every game. And his list of good plays are increasing.

Aggressively go after a QB? Like 2 first rounders, a second rounder and TMac aggressive? That's what got us here. Build the team, then get the QB. If you think this passing offense is set minus BY today, you're not being honest with yourself. Now they have potential, but they aren't as good as many seem to think. I can't think of any games this season where I said yeah our receivers and TEs are better than theirs. If they can upgrade QB without doing something ridiculous, then I'm all for it. If not, then continue to improve the TEAM and THEN get your rookie QB like they should have done 3 seasons ago.

Bryce should absolutely be penciled in as the starter going in to the offseason. If they can draft a guy or acquire a vet that improves the position, then AWESOME! Let there be competition. But change for the sake of change puts us back in the Browns and Jets territory. Bryce and the WRs/TEs need time to develop.

I just don't understand how we want a third year QB to "ball out" with a rookie WR as his #1, a rookie TE as his #1 TE, 2 sophomore WRs (one is a 1st rounder that is being outplayed by the other who is an UDFA), a sophomore TE that struggles with blocking, and Tommy Tremble. And all of that with what's now a 2nd year HC, who's calling plays for his third time - ever! This is a super young team that is outperforming expectations right now. The Panthers are winning games against better teams and the QB is a big reason why. You have to give Bryce, TMac, Legette, Coker, Evans, Sanders and Canales time. Otherwise we could just be the Browns or the Jets. No one wants that anymore. If they were going backwards, then yes, blow it up again. They aren't. They're getting better. They look like an actual competent NFL team. They're wildly inconsistent because they're incredibly young and inexperienced. All of them. Not just Bryce. But they're arrow is pointing up, so we should be patient and ride it out. It could be alot worse. A lot worse.

Agree with most of what you said. Looked to me like BY was reading the Safety. Once the Safety followed XL, BY switched to TMac. TMac was being blanketed by a CB all the way across the field - the rub was ineffective. I agree Bryce throws to a spot away from the flat defender, but I don't think it was necessarily a predetermined spot or route. It appeared to be chemistry between the QB and WR. TMac is at the 29 after that ball is released, and then he adjusts to catch it at the 20.