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He really does. Good reference. If anything it’s on par with with Jakes arm post surgery, and that essentially ended Jake as a starter.

Hahahahahaha Just accept how bad things are until shown otherwise. It’s much easier that way. Embrace the poverty.

Media treatment during Cam’s career vs. Bryce so far is wild. Kid is being coddled by everyone.

I hate football now because of the panthers, so I haven’t followed the Harbaugh thing at all. But I’d love a coach who gives enough of a sh!t to cheat. I’d take that any day over this hell.

I agree. The whole damn team performed just fine when Wilks had them doing things they are good at. He was a “defense coach” and wasn’t a sexy enough name, so his work was overlooked. Reich and co, (I assume mainly Reich) are forcing players to scheme instead of tailoring scheme to player. That’s bad coach red flag all day long. Let’s get a better staff or a better HC with a vision.

He can’t run the current scheme though.

Which reminds me: everyone likes to call out Chris Simms on his misses, but he definitely appears correct on his Stroud/Young take.

Definitely not saying he was the only one, but ideas spread, then those who choose to adopt those ideas mentally own them as “theirs” and defend them. Sometimes in obvious ways. Sometimes in slick ways. “Texans wanted Young but they will never admit it” is a pointless thing to say, and comes off like saying “see it wasn’t just me, everyone else too.” It softens the feeling of “being wrong.” An ego massaging trick.

So many highly regarded young and old coaches on this staff…and this is what we get? How could they be this bad? Too many cooks in the kitchen? Is one guy (perhaps Reich) limiting everyone else? Stunning. Has there been a bigger contrast between expectation and reality in team history?

Perhaps he’s saving face because he liked Bryce…

And it’s a team sport, of course, and it takes a team to perform well, but if people can’t see that Stroud is the difference and that he is ELEVATING his teammates…I don’t know what to tell you.

I just love how narratives change over time. No one “knows” anything and just puts together educated guesses into stories, which get pushed as “reality.” Pre (and during) the draft/off-season, the Texans were poo on. They’ve been a laughing stock since the Watson scandal. Dumpster fire. Good story with the new HC, but man it was seen as a tough spot for a rookie to walk into a team devoid of talent with a rookie HC and poo O-line. We were the perfect place for the rookie QB, Vet staff, solid defense that just needed help from the offense, young offensive mind paired with an experienced one, popular QB coach, and Moore being traded was downplayed like hell. Now? Narrative is we suck, no talent, Texans actually are well built and well coached, with talented skill players surrounding Stroud. It just comes off as cope for Bryce, with Stroud not getting enough credit. I’m bitter now, so perhaps this is my lens of bias reading it this way, but I see a lot of this stuff as saving face.

Icky is huge, but remember that he’s basically a kid. Very young man. Lets not pick apart every word that comes out of his mouth.

There could be value in convincing yourself you are watching a parody of doodoo football (think Sharknado-ish) and laugh at how impressively ass it is. A Guinness or two would assist with that.

The only plus side to being shitty is diving into the youth of the roster and seeing development/growth and periodic flashes. That can be fun. But so often you have stubborn coaches who trot out the same vets for the sake of it. poo is lame and unbearable. This is John Fox lame duck season status at least, but somehow this feels even worse because of the peak hype last off-season, contrasted with whatever the fug we see each Sunday.

I agree. Theilen aside, now is the time to see what you have in guys who haven’t played thus far. I’d bench/reduce Chark’s snaps first. He’s not here next year. No point. Make Tremble TE1, and use Sullivan more. Force the ball to TMJ for a couple games and sink or swim time. If he shows he can’t do it, move on for good. All the bottom WR’s need snaps. See what we have. Sanders shouldn’t see the field anymore. Blackshear/Cohen get all his touches. It’s time for young guy evaluation…stop waisting PT on vets who aren’t performing.

I always had a feeling that Moore regressed because he didn’t feel secure with the team drafting Clausen high in the draft. Could be wrong, but he looked like he was pressing instead of playing free the year before.

Yeah. And to be clear, I don’t want to put that all on him. From top to bottom of the organization, what we were sold, vs what we ended up with…I’m just stunned. For the first time in my life, I just don’t like football anymore. This organization did a number on my fandom. I’m not even sad anymore. I just barely care. I’m still here though. So my fandom isn’t entirely gone yet. But it’s hanging on by the thinnest of threads.

Probably unpopular. Probably irrational. Probably dumb: But I don’t want to watch Bryce anymore. I just don’t care. Even when he “plays well” it’s just boring, dunk dunk, “efficient”. It’s very passive and every pass feels like a “settle for” type of pass. There’s just zero wow. Zero balls. This is the most apathetic I’ve felt as a fan.

Could be. People like to think you can reduce everything to hard data and numerical value…but some poo can’t be measured that way. Human beings, their minds, and everything that influences them…poo is complex.

Sure but he missed a wide open TMJ on a crossing route who had 3-5 yards of separation, with the potential to house it. He was gun shy last night too. I saw plenty of open receivers, and he either just hesitated and didn’t pull the trigger, or he didn’t progress to them in time (or by design he wasn’t supposed to look their way). Every position group has regressed. This a complete failure from top to bottom. Including Young. He’s a rookie so he gets the least blame to me, but he ain’t showing anything right now. Hell he may be broken at this point. And I don’t see anything that validates “#1 pick”. Again, not his fault. But damn this is depressing poo and this is a low point in franchise history.

Looking like it. This was my angle a year before while discussing QB’s in the Corral draft. Everyone drooling over Young/Stroud…but the unanswerable question mark was how much success was them vs. the talent around them. Pickett/Corral/Howell, etc didn’t have the supporting casts that Young/Stroud did. Stroud has already shown he is an individually talented player. Young? Still waiting. Not looking likely.

I love fajitas. This made me feel worse.

I’m rooting for it. This team makes me hate football. I’ve loved the game my whole life, and now I don’t. I hope they get smashed for taking this game from me.

The game is over so Bryce can’t throw any more pick 6’s today!