MasterAwesome

It's funny to me that the projection of Burns' contract is exactly $100,000 more than Josh Allen. I'm not sure if that was deliberate...like Allen signs and Burns wants "more" than that or something in this hypothetical scenario lol. Allen has had a monster year but it's hard to tell if it's that extra "contract year" edge or if he has truly elevated his game. He's got a pretty crazy PFF rating (89.5) too, for what it's worth.

Nah he didn't leave that out. The OP kinda glosses over this point, but that's pretty much all it boils down to. Hiring the wrong people at the top can be catastrophic cause that trickles down to everything. Poor talent, poor player development, bad gameplanning, poor coaching, no culture, bad playcalling, apathy from players, bad salary cap management, and a million other things that all culminate into what you just posted. It all stems from bad hires.

Maybe he can even buy the team himself, with the settlement money he gets from Tepper.

It was really just Chark who stepped up. Thielen has been solid all season. I would love to see some big renaissance from our receiving corps but we’ll have to wait and see. We’ve seen Chark drop some easy balls this year so I think he’s prone to streakiness and this was good Chark…really good, even.

It ain’t that serious lol just be a good sport and take your lumps like a big boy. Especially after Howell put up maybe the biggest dud of the entire season only for his backup to come in and put up 21 unanswered points and almost win them the game. So much for all that “worst o-line in NFL history” “worst defense since 2016” etc. *cope* (to borrow your word).

Stroud also had by far his worst game in his last game before injury, putting up 6 points and less than 100 yards. Which just so happened to be his one game without Nico Collins and Tank Dell. So yes, weapons do matter…it’s not the QB’s job to single-handedly carry a weak receiving corps.

Woah okay Mr. Fancy Pants exclusive Discord Group. Nice humble brag...

Lol I’ll be honest, I had already spent a few minutes trying to find a Brady one earlier but I couldn’t. I think maybe he’s too unathletic to even clear the ground. But moreso, there’s not really a great search term to use for this: I was doing “*QB name* pass” but like 80%+ of the images are gonna be focused on the upper body and don’t even show the feet.

Lol hey I love Stroud and think he has an awesome future. OP is the one who is insinuating that Stroud is trash and needs to fix his awful mechanics because there is tape of him throwing with both feet off the ground.

Falcons are a top 10 defense in both yards and points, FYI.

Man...if only there were someone so unathletic and living on the internet...who could teach these awful bums how to be an NFL QB. Do we have anyone like that here? Maybe they could host a QB camp and invite all of these losers.

You can just google his hand size: it's 9 3/4". Slightly above average for an NFL QB; same size as Jalen Hurts who doesn't look cartoonish holding a football, so my guess is yeah it's doctored.

I don't know if this is necessarily borne out empirically, but I think intuitively there is a belief that a great OC with creative playcalling (especially a fresh young up-and-comer) is way more likely to get poached for a head coaching gig. The Mike McDaniel/Kyle Shanahan/Sean McVay archetype is the shiny new ideal that I think teams strive for, which is why Ben Johnson has been a hot name over the last year or so. Then again, you still have DCs like Demeco Ryans, Robert Saleh, Jonathan Gannon, etc. getting poached so it would be interesting to actually track the hirings. It just feels intuitive that a young offensive-minded HC doubling as an innovative play-caller is the ideal commodity in the modern NFL. It feels like an innovative talented defensive playcaller doesn't quite have the same potential moving the needle for a team's overall success that an equally talented offensive counterpart does. Evero seems to be an example of that, but we'll also see how hot of a head coaching candidate he is next year.

Really? I may be wrong but that's definitely not my recollection of the consensus for the 2021 draft lol. I remember most people being opposed to drafting a LB in the Top 10 because they saw Micah Parsons as an off-the-ball linebacker, not the elite pass-rusher he is today. I don't know that there was a "consensus" Huddle crush for the 2021 draft, but if anything, the plurality seemed to be gunning for Justin Fields which would have also been a bad pick in hindsight. There were definitely some who wanted Parsons, but it was a small minority from what I remember.

It seems like that’d still be easy to exploit. Imagine someone like Kelce getting passed off to like a 5’10 corner in the red zone. Teams would probably just adjust and force mismatches.

Are you suggesting that other teams’ fans know Nicole Tepper by name?

What about Micah Parsons?

Okay cool so it was a Freudian slip...you very clearly don't like the team (i.e. the Panthers' organization/staff)...do you deny that? So that doesn't change anything I said. Again you're being pedantic. You're totally not riled up, yet I'm "freaking out". I hate to break it to you but we're both exuding the same energy here...if I'm freaking out then you're freaking out. You sorta lose your right to play the chill zen carefree card when you've spent 20 pages arguing with 9 different people back and forth. If they're just basically doing "coachspeak" (which you acknowledge is a thing that all coaches around the league do) then what I don't understand is why you always time and time again make such a big deal and get pissy about it when it happens. I think most of the rest of us can recognize it and ignore it because it's a rather meaningless leaguewide norm, yet it for some reason drives you crazy to the point that you're jumping into rants about PR bs and how everyone is lying etc. like that one crazy grandpa at Thanksgiving dinner. I don't think I've ever witnessed a constructive discussion between you and anyone else because you simply never attempt to engage with anything anyone actually says, rather than all this performative drivel about "Sorry you can't handle what I'm saying" and "you're such a ________ fanboy" and "I'm just telling it like it is" and all these other meaningless platitudes. You just come across as some kind of rhetorical debatelord, but not an effective one. I've never seen someone post so many paragraphs, while saying so little. You have the same energy as the people in here who get so mad any time the bot does bot things and posts a fluff piece from the Panthers website. While the rest of us can recognize that the Panthers PR/website is just doing its job churning out content about the team, and subsequently ignore it without getting triggered every time. So to the rest of us who hear some throwaway line during the offseason like "The Panthers are a QB away from competing" or "we have the best WRs in the NFL" or w/e and pay it zero mind, here you are months and months later still bringing it up like it wronged you to your very core. You think the rest of us eat up whatever the team's PR spoonfeeds us...but in reality, the difference between us is we are capable of ignoring all the clear PR nonsense while you let it eat away at you for some reason.

The bolded is honestly the most important and relevant part of everything you said thus far, and basically summarizes the last 10 pages of you saying very little of substance. Your dislike for the team is the basis as to why you view everything they say and do through the most uncharitable and disdainful and conspiratorial lens possible. Everything they say, you assign the most nefarious possible interpretation to. "We are just a QB away from competing" = pure PR bs that they're deliberately feeding the fans...instead of them actually believing something and being wrong. Hyping up our "trash WR corps" = despicable BOLOGNA that they should be ashamed for lying to us about...instead of them actually feeling good about who they signed in the offseason. Actions speak louder than words...so if they're signing a guy like Miles Sanders to a significant contract in free agency, do you think it's more likely that they actually were genuinely high on him? Or was that a PR move to artificially drum up hype for a player they knew sucked? Your whole shtick of "I'm so enlightened that I see through all of the Panthers' BS and you are all SHEEP for buying all of the PR" is just bordering on Panthers Derangement Syndrome at this point. So apparently the PR angle of crediting Brown with the development of the playbook was to make him look as good as possible...that still makes no sense. Their priority is to hype up our OC who 90% of casual fans had never heard of? Why would people get hyped about a relative nobody designing a playbook? If anything, people would probably be more hyped about Frank Reich (a proven offensive coach with decades of experience) creating the playbook himself. Saying our OC created the playbook, and our HC is calling plays from a playbook that someone else created, seems like a counterintuitive PR move to me. It'd instill more confidence to know that one guy is calling plays from his own playbook that he created. Maybe Frank hasn't even been calling the plays all along...that could be a lie/PR stunt, right? He's been taking the fall for Thomas Brown all along and it's just the organization making him the scapegoat for when he gets fired and Brown slides in as interim HC. I get why you dislike the team...that's fine, it's warranted. But don't let it poison the well so much that if Frank Reich were to go up to the podium and say he had a roast beef sandwich for lunch, you freeze frame and zoom in on his teeth and say "what a load of horsepoo...that looks more like a piece of salami between his teeth. What a lying piece of poo". The things you're choosing to be pedantic and argumentative about is honestly very silly. Like you trying to clarify that you're not saying they're lying...only that they're feeding us PR bs. What a silly pedantic distinction to get hung up on. The substance of what you're saying is clear, regardless of what word you want to use.

Just stop breadcrumbing and get to the point. It shouldn't take 27 posts back and forth before we get to your actual argument. This isn't a 4-season Netflix series.

When did I ask you why you dislike Frank's offense? Huh? How do I post the same question twice and you still somehow answer a different one? But okay ignoring that weird comment...okay so this is clearly a Frank Reich offense because it runs out of shotgun a lot. Okay...hardly the compelling argument I was hoping for, but I guess we can leave it at that. We don't even know what a "Thomas Brown offense" would even look like, which seems like a pretty important detail when trying to determine how much of an offense is Reich vs. Brown. You choose to believe a Brown offense would be similar to a McVay offense because...why? Brown said so? So was it PR bs when he said he developed the playbook, but not PR bs when he said he integrated elements of McVay's offense? This gets complicated when we gotta pick and choose from the same guy's comments which are BS and which are factual. Can you now answer whether Ryan Kalil's full-page ad guaranteeing the Super Bowl was PR bologna or not?

Can you relax a little? I don't think I've ever seen you this riled up before. I find it odd that you state over and over again how this is a classic Frank Reich offense but you seem unable to articulate any details about what a Frank Reich offense is. Or at least I asked you for specifics, and you did not even attempt to answer that, so I am left to assume you don't know. Okay so at least you gave me one example of what you think is PR bs. The PR angle of saying we are a QB away from competing is obvious...it's trying to drum up hype this season. But can you explain the PR angle of our OC saying *before the season* that he created our playbook? Was that supposed to drum up hype? "HELL YEAH OUR OC WROTE THE PLAYBOOK, LET'S FREAKING GOOOOOOO" doesn't quite pass the sniff test to me. When Ryan Kalil took out an ad in the Observer guaranteeing we were gonna win the Super Bowl but then we proceeded to go 7-9 and miss the playoffs, was that PR bologna? Or was that something he actually believed that simply didn't come to fruition? Because if you are claiming Reich saying "we're a QB away from competing" is PR bs rather than something he believed that didn't come to fruition, then you would have to somehow prove that he didn't actually believe that. Hell, I believed we were a QB away from competing considering we almost made the playoffs last year with Baker Mayfield/PJ Walker/Sam Darnold at QB. It's pretty logical to believe that if you upgrade the far-and-away most important position in the NFL, then you can improve your record by a few games.

Can you give some specifics on the unique elements of a Frank Reich offense that convince you that his fingerprints are all over the playbook rather than Thomas Brown? Also, can you be more specific on some of these lies that Frank and co. gave before the season started that have since proven to be untrue? I've only heard you mention something about Frank saying Miles Sanders would be a 3-down back and yet he was subbed out on some 3rd downs. Or something...that's the closest thing to a "lie" that I've heard you mention so I'm curious what are some others?

Just curious, what's the sentiment in here on a Luvu extension? He's my favorite player on the team and I'm probably going to be buying a Franklin Luvu jersey the minute he hopefully gets extended, but I know historically most of you are super opposed to paying big money to linebackers. He will in all likelihood be getting paid big money...Roquan Smith just set the market earlier this year with a 5-year $100 million contract with $60 million guaranteed.