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I was referring to the 2023 WR free agents group. Should be impressive.

So you view DJ Moore as more of a mid to high 1st round value? I’m not sure he’d go for that via trade, but I could see someone give up a mid 1st if they’re desperate enough at WR.

I don’t view Howell as a risky pick at all in the 2nd. I think of all the QBs in this draft, his floor in the NFL is easiest to predict. Even if it’s not Howell and instead another QB in the 2nd, I would prefer to have that QB throwing behind a young and promising OL to CMC/Robby/TMJ/Shi versus Darnold throwing behind our current OL + Cross at LT and the same receiving corp + DJ Moore. If the QB we select with one of our acquired picks shows promise, we could easily afford a top end WR the next year since we have a cheap QB for 3 more years + option year. I’m not saying it would be the best option, but we could then afford to make Davante Adams the highest paid WR like he desires over a 3 year contract. That’s the kind of moves that open up when you have a young QB and OL showing promise.

The QB is Sam Howell or another end 1st/top 2nd round graded QB. Pro Days will shift some up/down, but it’s looking like quite a few QBs will be available in the 2nd out of this crop. Does it really matter who they’re throwing to next year? We’re not competing for a championship next year so build for the future. We will have the money, OL, and potentially a QB to attract WRs next offseason.

I don’t think so. We could potentially land something like this with the haul…. #16 - Linderbaum #19 - Bernhard Raimann or Nakobe Dean #51 - Sam Howell or other 2nd Rd QB or stay put and…. #6 - Charles Cross Keep DJ Moore

Eagles get: #6 - 2022 (1600 value) DJ Moore (??? value; need ~665 value to break even according to the chart which is late 1st round value) Panthers get: #16 -2022 (1000 value) #19 - 2022 (875 value) #51 - 2022 (390 value) Reasons it could work imo… Philly is looking for a WR. I saw someone mention they almost traded for Ridley before his issues came to light. DJ’s contract is expiring soon. The WR free agent market will be packed next year. The Eagles would have #6 and #15 picks this year along with the WR help they need. They could address their big need at edge rusher or safety if one of Hutchinson, Thib, or Hamilton fall to #6. The Panthers would be able to address OL and QB with the acquired 2022 picks.

The only way this would work at that price is if the Texans restructured to cover a bunch of Watson’s salary, freeing up cap room for us over the next few years to build.

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No, I don’t want the trade because I don’t think it will help push us through to contender status. This is mainly because I believe we’d have to give up too much to acquire him and his huge cap number would make it tight to bring in help. Yes, I would still be a fan of the Panthers. I don’t know all the facts of his situation or the outcome of it. Once that’s all out and finished, I may change my mind. I just see it as difficult to change allegiances especially when I primarily root for NC teams and don’t have another option there.

If he’s dropping, it makes me want to trade back even more. If we somehow manage to draft Linderbaum and perhaps Howell in the 2nd with a pick acquired through the trade…..I’ll be good to go.

Marcus McKethan in the 6th

The most concerning thing about this, imo, is we seem to be setting up to use CMC heavily this year while pairing him with a dud at QB. He's not built for that workload anymore.

Y’all really wouldn’t trade…. -DJ Moore -Sam Darnold -2022 5th round pick for -James Daniels G/C -Connor Williams G -JuJu Smith Schuster WR -Cordarelle Patterson WR/HB -2022 3rd pick According to PFF, those players’ contracts could be afforded with the cap savings from Darnold and Moore trades. We would likely have to pay more than PFF projects to get them to come here, but it’s in the ball park. I’d take that all day.

The weasel left because of the incoming implosion.

I believe NO is imploding.

Or rotate one of our CBs to safety if we bring back one of Gilmore or Jackson. I think/hope we bring back Gilmore and take the comp pick for Jackson. Horn or Taylor could end up great safeties. Gilmore, Henderson, Bouye, Pride, and one of Horn/Taylor is still a strong CB room.

I never understand when the “not your money” posts come on a message board centered around discussing a team and their transactions. Do you say, “why does it matter - you’re not the coach” when we lose a game? No. I don’t think DJ is worth 20 mil per year. To your last question. 20mil could get us two quality starting guards which we don’t have. That would be a better use imo than paying WR1 money to a guy I’m not sure is a WR1.

He can start

Is he worth $20 mil per year in your opinion?

4.5 mil per for two years it looks like

To be fair, the separation between Moore and Anderson at WR wasn't as evident after the 2020 season. Anderson looked good in 2020. Hopefully he can return to that production, but it's looking like he got paid and didn't go as hard once there was no chemistry with the QBs.

Agreed. I was wanting to let Reddick walk for the comp pick because I thought he would command a $15mil+ price. If we can sign him for around 4 years/$40mil, I'd consider that a good deal.

Ideal scenario: Trade DJ Moore, Sam Darnold, and a 2022 5th round pick to a team (Broncos?) without a QB for a 2022 2nd or 3rd. They get: one year rental at QB and a top 15-25ish WR to build around, plus a 5th round draft pick We get: $29 million in cap space for 2022 and the 2nd or 3rd round pick we gave up. We can use the cap to replace DJ (Smith-Schuster & C. Patterson?) and bring in some linemen. Sign Trubisky for cheap and look for a QB in 2023.

I think we're going to take the comp pick for Reddick. Good thing imo.

That’s overboard. We’d make the playoffs with Rodgers.