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I’ve been listening to many draft experts and many think of it wasn’t for Trevor, Wilson would be the clear cut number 1 pick. He’s the closest prospect I’ve seen that resembles Aaron Rodgers.

He reminds me of the stereotypical High school coach

It was clear back in early December both Tepper and Rhule want a new QB

The definition of empty stats QB Stafford is the type of QB that plays terrible against a playoff caliber team, then the following week against a bottom of the barrel team goes for for 350 yards and 4 TD. And how often does a QB switching teams in their 30s actually ends up working out? very rare

Gates hasn’t made a pro bowl since 2011, he was constantly dealing with nagging injuries the later half of his career. Allen missed two season to torn acl. From 2011 to 2017 no team over that period had more players on IR. The chargers are cursed and the only player that was there the whole time was Rivers. There was one year where Rivers lost his number 1, 2 and 3 WR in the first four weeks of the season. And then you have to remember the chargers never had a home field advantage, there the only team were the opposing team fans would outnumber the home team constantly. Rivers will never get his due for the sh*tshow he dealed with

Who was Rivers best WR? Vincent Jackson? He would be Ben’s 4th best WR The pass blocking wise Ben had the edge. RB I guess you can give it to Rivers he had LT for 3 seasons. And coaching is not even close.

Rivers was more consistent then Ben with an inferiors supporting cast. Rivers was only behind Peyton when it came to on field duties, he was basically the OV in SD for a large chunk

Not buying the Sunday ticket if we don’t draft a QB in the first

Rivers>>>>>>Ben and Eli The Chargers are a terribly ran franchise and would have been the Browns west of it wasn’t for Rivers all those years

My dream scenario

We have no where close to the resources the Dolphins and jets do.

Who says I’m not? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand football. Again go read my original post, idc about their grades, who is graded higher than who, I have film saying Moore is just as good as Adams you have no film saying the opposite. Like I said you and me can go clip for clip instead using grades which is a more sensible way of determine who is better. Also it’s not about grading better it’s the fact that Brown played better than Adams, no if, ands or buts about it. The film doesn’t lie

Why do you need grades, you don't trust your eyes and knowledge of the game??? Yesterdays games was a perfect example, Hollywood Brown should of over 120 yards and 2 TD with a better QB but I bet PFF gives Adams a better grade for being schemed open

Disagreeing with what? The don’t put stock into more important stuff coaches find tangible thus the grades they give out are dumb. Not that hard to understand, you like to put stock in meaningless grades.

They watch more players but understand the concepts and what makes said receiver better The easiest way to find out who doesn't know anything about football is if you disagree with the actual coaches in the NFL. I'll stick to the coaches and film you stick to the cute algorithm

Might as well stop following theirs cause judging by the evidence you provided they don’t watch much film either. Or you can always just take pointers from the actual coaches and how they guard said WR. Much easier way to find who’s the best WR that way.

I’m faulting them for lack of context. But at the same time I have never put much stock on their grades. That’s why in my OP I said reason 8956 (or whatever ) not take pff serious. You just went out of your way trying to justify those grades without much film to show for it.

The highlights I posted show every major target Adams had, and you got nothing to show for it. it’s pretty obvious they emphasize possession WR over big play guys who garner more attention by opposing D. By pointing out Beasley over Hill your pretty much agreeing with me in that the grading system is extremely flawed, you just don’t want to come out and say it. It seems defensive coaches put as much stock into the grades as I do. They probably see them as a cute internet click bait article. My top in no order are Hill, Moore, Digg, Mclauren and AB. All guys that can beat you in anyway you want.

That’s the whole point of my thread, they can come up with what ever quacky equation they want, that spouts out the grades but at the end of the day there’s a ton of film evidence and coaching decisions that say other wise. The pff grades might say Micheal Thomas was the best WR last year but the opposing defensive strategy says otherwise. They might say Adams was the number 1 graded WR on there site but the film shows Moore having done more with less. You can go with the pff grades I go with the tape and coaching decisions. When Bill Belichick is willing to leave the so called number 1 graded WR on a island one on one, while doubling the 18th graded WR one 80% of the plays, don’t you think it’s time to reevaluate how they are grading these players. It seems pff likes to emphasize other non important aspects of the receiving position while completely avoiding more valuable aspects. I can tell you right now Tyreek Hill does more for the chiefs offense than Adams does for the packers and pff doesn’t seem to care for that.

That’s the point of my thread, the grades that pff give out don’t mean much if they have Moore ranked 24th when in reality his just as good as Adams. Chris Simms who does rankings also brought this up last season. Last year Micheal Thomas who is a possession receiver was their number 1 graded WR, yet opposing defenses never double Thomas, matter of fact a lot of times he’s getting covered by safeties, backers and nickels, so how come pff doesn’t take that into account? Over the last couple of seasons why is it that Belichick has only doubled 3 WR that I can think of (AB, Julio and Tyreek) According to pff grades Belichick should be doubling guys like Adams and Thomas but all the times he faced those guys he never did. Ever give that much thought? That smartest coach ever is willing to double a guy like Tyreek over the pff number one rated WR These are highlights of Adams of every major catch in 2020, I counted 3 maybe 4 difficult catches and 2 great YAC plays, outside of that its a clinic by Rodgers of throwing dimes. It also shows Rodgers extending plays allowing Adams to get open, which I have no clue what so ever how pff accounts for that.

Cause anyone with football knowledge knows Robby isn’t on DJ level, so theirs no point in arguing.

If Norv is good at one thing is drawing up a good run game and force feeding his RB just ask LT. How much times in 2019 were we getting blown out by double digits and Norv or his son kept handing or throwing the ball to CMC against prevent D playing off coverage. Bonafon was averaging over 6 ypc and Norv still wouldn’t use him

I understand how it works and it makes no sense. For one they are bias (The article on Allen), and most likely not watching the film more than once. Like in that specific play since Samuel made a circus catch they probably didn’t even credit Moore for what would been a TD. Since you are agreeing the system is flawed, how about we go play by play. You show me evidence of Adams great receiving expertise not aided by Rodgers perfect passes and I’ll do the same for Moore. It can’t get anymore fair than that right?

Your using that word valued to loosely, considering the fact we have a horrific record when Mccaffrey gets a ton of receptions. So how valuable are those receiving yards? And yes Turner did Mccaffrey favors by force feeding him, it made his stats look better than what they really are. oh and Cook can also catch considering he’s had a higher yard per receptions than CMC on numerous seasons.

Show me for that game then since DJ only ended with 18 yards I want to see if he ended the same if he would have got that 70 yard TD