MillionDollarCam

So I watched NFLN, did you happen to watch ESPN? I was curious about the coverage of the slide. NFLN seemed to be very professional, they didn’t mention whether he came back for the second day, didn’t do any interviews with him, or pan to him in the green room. It wasn’t like the Aaron Rodgers debacle where every five seconds the camera was on him. I’m just curious how ESPN/ABC handled it.

Well yeah we don’t want to give him herpes or something… what happens in dirty myrtle stays at dirty myrtle.

Media deserves a lot of blame but it really picked up when all 32 teams had at least one rep at his pro day. Personally I think that’s when the train started to leave the station. He was the only QB to have a representative from all 32 teams at his pro day (to my knowledge) and while Rhule and Tomlin were the only HC’s, that much personnel representation is on par with a first round draft pick. A lot of it probably had to do with who Liberty is… small school, young program, etc… so let’s send some guys there to just check it out. But yeah, it was a mess all the way around.

fuging phenomenal interview, it’s a shame we don’t have another option at LB (besides Mora - who I also am not a fan of). Fuchs in his older age needs to slide inside. He’s been great at CB when we play a back three.

Buy Colbert a beach house somewhere and just ask him to come on as an advisor.

Same reason he makes Malik… they either kicked his dog… or they listen to too much hippity hoppity music.

Personally, I think Dak was. Dak has said multiple times that the reason he had immediate success was because of the pro style offense that Mississippi State ran. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mississippi-state-football/dak-prescott-offense-ran-mississippi-state-nothing-short-nfl-offense/amp/ Wilson probably wasn’t ready but when you have an extra weapon in your arsenal (true dual threat QB) then it makes life easier.

Fun fact… all came from pro style offenses (for the most part, Burrow ran a lot of spread)… all top three picks… not even REMOTELY the same… use someone who actually came from a collegesque offense… say like Mahomes… oh that’s right, he sat.

You don’t get better by setting people up for failure. That’s like you getting a job as an engineer and then your boss saying good luck when you have no experience. You are going to suck ass it for a bit and because you suck ass it might get you fired… if he would have given you proper training then maybe you’d have had a snowballs chance in hell at being successful.

Lol just no… How is not remotely close? You throw a guy out there who hasn’t run a pro style offense in his entire football career week one and you expect success… want to buy my beach house in Kansas? This is how you ruin a kids career. Playing him way before he is ready because YOU don’t want the Panthers to suck this year. Thankfully cooler heads will prevail and Darnold will more than likely be the starter on week one. We also have a scouting department for a reason. I’ll also mention that it doesn’t matter who is picking #1 next year… the Chiefs could be picking number one and they are still taking Young or Stroud simply for the trade piece. If we are in position to draft one of those guys then we will… and if we like Armstrong or Van Dyke then we might draft one of those guys as well… regardless of Corral.

I’d offer Shi a pot brownie for every KR/PR that he takes to the crib this year.

If you throw Corral out there day one then you are doing exactly what the Jets did to Darnold minus the inept OL play. Darnold may be who he is but QB’s are much more likely to be successful with time than they are if you just throw them to the fire. Aaron Rodgers sat, Pat Mahomes sat, Josh Allen sat a bit… it’s almost like people want to see Corral fail. If you think that a kid who has never ran a pro style offense can come into the NFL with grown ass men and learn a completely new offense with new concepts and new verbiage and be ready to start week one then we have nothing to talk about because we won’t ever agree. You guys want Corral to be the savior from day one… that ain’t gonna happen.

Personally, I think more time needs to be given to him. He can learn a lot from just watching what Darnold does wrong on film (as shitty as that sounds). I think if you throw him out there early you run the risk of ruining him which is what the Dolphins did with Tua. Tua started week 6 of 2020 and at that point the Dolphins weren’t running RPO as heavy as they are now. Fast forward to 2021 and the Dolphins scrapped a lot of their pro style concepts that they were running with Fitzpatrick (presumably because Tua is having processing and accuracy issues - and their run game is ass). In 2021, there were games where 80% of his completed passes were coming from RPO plays (essentially dink and dunks)… and it’s not like the Dolphins we’re winning games because of him… it was more or less just asking him not to lose the game… think Trent Dilfer and the Ravens. Develop Corral properly and see what he’s got when he’s ready. If you don’t feel that he’s ready then don’t play him. There’s no shame in riding out Darnold to Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud and a new coaching staff. People get so caught up in the “we wasted a third round pick”… no we didn’t waste a third round pick, we aren’t in a position to win a Super Bowl right now and sometimes it takes more than one dart to hit the bullseye when searching for a franchise QB.

That has a lot to do with the offense that Kiffin runs which is concerning. If you give him one read and it isn’t there and he’s being blitzed then he’s got to take the sack, throw it in the dirt, or try and force the ball in there. For me it all comes back to the offense that he was a part of. But you could say that about nearly all the top QB’s in this draft except Pickett. Pickett is the only one that has a strong familiarity with a pro style offense but he also may not have the tools that someone like Willis or Corral has. But yeah… Willis came from a simplified offense that is built on a foundation of overloading the defensive personnel and making the defense make a choice, Corral came from a spread that used way too much RPO for my liking, Howell was never under center, and Strong came from an air raid and the only QB’s who seem to do well in the NFL from an air raid are mobile (Mahomes and Murray come to mind). Not Corral’s or any of these QB’s faults that their coaches run odd offenses. It’s more about do they do enough things right where you think that you can coach them up. The Panthers think that Corral does enough right and that he’s smart enough to learn a pro style offense so we’ll see what happens. But this is also why I don’t start him day one. I honestly think he’ll gain a ton of experience just watching what Darnold does wrong on tape (and I hate to say that because Darnold is a nice kid).

I mean I’d argue that he had one of the worst coaching staffs in all of power 5 football. When I was watching Willis (Liberty) play Tech, Barno stood out quite a bit (which he should against G5 players). He didn’t have the production that Marquise Haynes had in college but a lot of their flaws are similar… undersized, has no moves in package (only speed), non-factor in the run game, etc… Personally I attribute his “motor” issues to just being on a downright horrible VT team the past two years. I don’t think he was in a great situation to be developed. With his athleticism I think he gives Pasqualoni a lot to work with.

So I’m not a huge fan of Corral but even I think this is a brutal write up. I also think his pocket awareness is better than people realize. He has the same trait that Willis and Howell have, in reality they are their teams’ offense and at times hold on to the ball way too long trying to create something when it’s not there. I think that has more to do with being young and not understanding the concept of living to fight another day rather than just taking the the easy way out and saying that he has poor pocket awareness. He is also nothing like Sam Darnold, Darnold can’t process a defense quick enough which has led to him being the worst passer in the NFL by a wide margin from a clean pocket. Some of Darnold’s best throws come on roll outs because it gives him time to scan the field and process what he is seeing. Corral on the other hand can process a defense quickly and even in a simplified offense he manages to complete some nice passes in tight coverage. I’m not exactly sure how you compare the worst QB in the NFL with a clean pocket to the best QB in the SEC with a clean pocket but I guess when your whole article trashes the kid you have to find stuff to make up. I think Corral faces an uphill battle because he’ll be learning a pro style offense (WCO) for the first time in his career and Lane Kiffin offenses are notoriously simple with intricate details mixed in (during Kiffin’s time at FAU they didn’t even have a physical playbook). With that said, I think all the talent is there to be a solid QB it’s just going to depend on how he is upstairs and that’s what separates decent QB’s from great QB’s. Absolute worst case scenario is that you have someone that you are comfortable with as a backup. Hopefully the kid puts it together. McAdoo has had some success mentoring QB’s so hopefully that continues.

That could be but you don’t pass on a QB you like just because your current guy might hit in four years time. I’ll mention that it’s rare to not know what you have in a QB by the the end of their second year as a full time starter. The only current starting QB that fits into that narrative is Tannehill.

100% agree. It’s the most important position on the field so throw as many darts as needed to get it right.

Cage match

No idea why this concept is hard to grasp. If you are picking 1 or 2 next year then you are taking Young or Stroud… it doesn’t matter who your QB is because worse case scenario, you have a massive trade chip. Things get more interesting if you are in the 10-15 range where guys like Van Dyke and Armstrong might have value but you cross that bridge when you get to it.

Why would you take out 2012, they made those picks. Just because the stats don’t fit an ahead doesn’t mean we can discredit them. And it might be possible that the Seahawks have a specific formula in place that they use when drafting players. After all, the three teams that are consistently listed as the three best drafting teams (Seahawks, Chiefs, and Packers) are once again topping the value chart for this year… it’s not just some dumb luck. Does luck play a part… sure… the right guys have to be there for your team to draft. But these three teams are too consistent to just right it off as dumb luck. Another common trait, all three of those teams drafted, developed a franchise QB, and won a Super Bowl that franchise QB.

The usuals are up there (Packers, Chiefs, and Seahawks), quite odd to see us along with the Jets and Raiders up there.

Statistically, the Seahawks have been the best drafting team since 2010…

I mean if you draft well enough you are bound to develop a few for other teams… the important thing is that you are good enough drafting team that you can just replace those players with another draft pick. Fitterer did that with the Seahawks for multiple years. The notion that guys don’t want to play in Carolina is also BS. These are grown adults not children. They won’t to get paid and provide their families. It doesn’t matter if it’s in Charlotte or Vegas. The important thing is to have a GM that is a good drafter and he knows how to manage the cap. It appears that Fitterer knows how to do both.

Carried all that play in the second half and would have had a draw if we didn’t poo all down our leg on that one set piece (corner).