MillionDollarCam

I usually do but what’s the point if people are going to act like children… play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Why are we here if we are just going to wait to see how he does? Shut down the board and let’s all meet at BofA for a prayer circle if we can’t have disagreements about the team. I can dislike the pick and not hate the kid (which I don’t). I will also pull for him and I hope he succeeds. If he does, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.

I’m glad whistle sports thinks so… what pick do they have again? I don’t have to go to YouTube to have an opinion. Mahomes, Allen, Herbert arm strength > Corral

This is why I’ve blocked most of the people on this board. Can’t have an actual conversation with someone and do some stupid poo like this. I feel bad for your significant others (if you are blessed to have one) if this is how you behave when having a conversation.

It was one throw… without going through a game… I’d venture 80% of the QB’s in the NFL can throw the ball 70 yards if you give them time to loosen up their arm and tell them to throw the ball as far as they can while not having to worry about the next throw.

Are we really doing this… it was one throw… can you do that after playing a whole game? Not one scout has said that he has elite arm strength. He’s got great arm talent and an elite release. His arm strength is ordinary by NFL standards and simply put the QB’s that are running RPO’s at a high level have better arms (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert). The one QB who also runs RPO’s a lot who doesn’t have elite arm strength is Tua… we can all see how that situation is going. If you truly think that Corral’s arm strength is on par with Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert then we have nothing to talk about because we won’t see eye to eye.

I think his arm strength is ordinary for the NFL as in not out of place. What I’ve been saying is that all the QB’s that excel in a heavy RPO system have cannons (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert). If the Panthers don’t coach the kid up and instead tailor the offense to him then I don’t think he’ll have a successful career. The QB’s that are running RPO’s right now are just built different than Corral.

I hope not but if Rhule and co. don’t actually coach the kid up in a pro style offense then I could see it. I don’t think Corral’s future is some RPO wizard. There’s talent there like his ability to throw a solid ball, his mobility, his pocket awareness, and his footwork to learn an NFL system. It’s up to our coaching staff to teach him and up to Corral to learn.

We have drug addicts (Smith - yes I know it was only pot) and woman abusers (Wilson) on the team… Corral’s drinking habit is the least of my concern. It’s not like we are talking about Johnny Manziel or Chad Kelly. I’d rather stick to talking about him as a football player.

You can’t have this opinion, you can only support Lord Rhule and the Panthers in everything and I mean everything that they do.

He’s athletic… he’s very mobile… he has a great pocket awareness… that doesn’t make him an elite athlete though. Its unlikely he’ll run for 50 yards a game, it’s unlikely he will escape sacks like a Mahomes or Allen (he does throw the ball away better than any QB in this class though, it sounds dumb but I’ve seen on multiple occasions when he’s under duress and without looking he knows exactly where his receiver is and manages to throw it in their vicinity out of bounds to avoid a sack). I think his athleticism is on par with Tagovailoa’s. Not elite, slightly above. The issue that I’ve listed multiple times is that the QB’s that run the RPO the most are all very elite athletes and have very elite arm strength. We can’t seriously sit here and say that Corral is on par with Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert when it comes to athleticism and arm talent.

What’s your point… he threw to wide open receivers… and a lot of times the ball was behind them. There is a difference between completing a pass for a first down than completing a better pass for a TD.

OC’s have to give interviews?

I’ve watched him live in person but nice try. Being an excellent athlete at the college level doesn’t make you an elite athlete at the NFL level. Especially when you don’t have the same physical gifts as the other QB’s that excel at RPO plays in the NFL. Then you factor in Corral’s durability and that negates a lot of his athleticism. If you are athletic but you can’t take a hit then it doesn’t really do you a whole lot of good being athletic… at that point you might as well be Carson Strong. Willis is by far the better athlete and even he will struggle transitioning to the NFL game as far as athleticism goes because it’s that much quicker. Corral is mobile but calling him an elite athlete with his size and durability is a disservice to him. If you expect him to do some of the stuff that Cam did for us and that Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert do for their teams then you’ll be waiting a long time.

I think Corral is a solid athlete. Not Mahomes or Allen, slightly behind Herbert but better than Tua. The issue is he isn’t durable (like Tua). And Corral has great ARM TALENT… as in he can make most of the NFL throws and has good touch as a well as an elite release… he does not have ELITE ARM STRENGTH. I watched the Willis and Corral game live in person and I could verify with my own eyes that he had a decent amount of under throws.

They 100% should coach Corral up to the pro game. The questions are… 1) Can this staff coach 2) If they can, can Corral learn I’ve maintained that if they stick with what he’s comfortable with then his ceiling looks like that of Tua Tagovailoa. I just don’t see QB’s without elite arm strength or elite athleticism succeeding in an offense that runs a lot of RPO… Tua is a middling pack QB and the rest of the guys that have a lot of RPO pulls are Mahomes, Herbert, and Allen… I don’t think Corral has any characteristics that match up with those three. He needs to be taught the NFL game and hopefully for our sake he can learn it. I think that if he’s taught a pro style offense then he’ll have a chance. He does some things well: throws a solid ball, has good footwork, good pocket awareness, he’s mobile… I think that’s enough to try and teach him a pro style offense. It’s up to our staff to coach and Corral to learn. If we try to tailor our offense to him then I have a lot of concerns. Lack of arm strength, a minimal read college system, and durability. I just don’t see any QB’s that run a solid amount RPO at the NFL level and do it well having his same limitations.

All of Burrow’s scouting reports list him as very athletic and he definitely showed his ability to move around at LSU. If anything his arm strength was a question coming out but he’s put those concerns to bed. Additionally, Burrow isn’t a system QB so it’s not really the same comparison. I only listed Burrow to show that all the top QB’s are elite in their own right at something whether it’s their athleticism or their arm talent. The real comparisons are the comparisons with the other NFL QB’s who run RPO plays the most… all the successful ones (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert) are elite athletes and have elite arm talent… and the one who runs it the most (Tagovailoa) is an average athlete (maybe slightly above) with average arm strength.

If it was truly a mistake then they don’t need to put McAdoo in front of the camera. I can see why Rhule would be upset… I mean he’s the HC. I just wouldn’t have made the comment he did in the interview about the whole respect thing.

The problem is that all the elite QB’s in the NFL are elite athletes (outside of Brady who is in a league of his own). Mahomes… athlete…, Allen… athlete…, Herbert… athlete…, Burrow… athlete… Corral is a pure QB who is a decent athlete from a very collegesque system that requires minimal reading of a defense and he has an average arm. Switch to the NFL… Specifically looking at RPO pulls (where the QB keeps) Dolphins - Tagovailoa - average athlete and average arm strength Kansas City - Mahomes - elite athlete and elite arm strength Steelers - Roethlisberger - below average athlete and average arm strength (for last year) Chargers - Herbert - elite athlete and elite arm strength Bills - Allen - elite athlete and elite arm strength The guys really excelling in the offense that Corral is comfortable in are elite athletes and have elite arm strength. Now personally I think Corral will be better than Tua because we have a running game to take pressure off of Corral as where the Dolphins do not. But it’s concerning that all of the QB’s that excel in the RPO at the NFL level don’t exactly look like Corral.

Please… the smiling was him covering up his disappointment. He felt that McAdoo undermined him which he probably did. I personally wouldn’t put that out in the media though.

This, he doesn’t need to learn the RPO. He needs to learn an NFL offense and how to go through his reads. He’s a competitor, he’s mobile, he throws a solid ball, he’s got good footwork and technique, and he’s got good pocket awareness. Concerns include the system he came from and his arm strength. What we need to figure out is if he he’s a one read RPO QB or is he a guy that can scan the field and have the RPO as a tool at his disposal. There are three QB’s to take a look at when discussing the RPO (Mahomes, Herbert, and Tagovailoa). The Chiefs, Chargers, and Dolphins ran the RPO more than any other teams last year (Pittsburgh was also up there but Roethlisberger wasn’t in his prime so I’m not including him). Two of those guys above have elite physical traits and rockets for arms, one of those guys has decent physical traits and his arm is average. I personally think we are looking at a QB like Tua, if he had the physical gifts and arm strength of the other two then the only concern would be if he can process an NFL offense. My main concerns stem from not having elite arm strength in a spread offense that focuses on the RPO. I honestly would have felt better about Joe Brady developing Corral than McAdoo. Corral is exactly the type of QB that Brady wanted… oh well.

Talent is there it’s just about if he can put two and two together and learn an NFL system, some can and then some can’t (Sam Darnold). Personally, I don’t have concerns. His competitive spirit and personality reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins. He thinks he’s the best and he’s got a confidence to him that doesn’t come off assholish (Baker Mayfield). My only concerns are picking up the system and durability. I don’t think he’ll be a bust and I’ve maintained that I could see him being very similar to Tua in that you tailor your offense toward what he does best.

Ever seen a Prius beat a Lambo in a race? You’re about to.

I hope Kamil gets the start tonight, Orlando is coming off a shellacking by Red Bulls so hopefully we can inflict more damage.

I don’t understand how it could be a panic pick. We needed to address the QB position regardless because Walker is not an NFL quality player. Panic would have been trading for Mayfield, regardless of who we selected, this is just trading up to fill a need.