Martin

Thank you. It is such a weird logic for me. Back in the day when betting on stuff the odds were a simple multiplier. E.g. if the odds were 2.5 you got you betting amount x 2.5. So $100 turned in to $250. Sooooooo much easier in my mind. But I also use the metric system…

I don’t bet. How does a -150 work? Why would you bet 150 to win 100? It’s a guaranteed loss of 50. Obviously I’m missing something here.

Hahaha, I’m the same way. I tell myself to step away, but then I get pulled back in.

I like the Michigan TE later in the draft, can’t remember his name.

From what I’ve seen you’ve been extremely open to discuss strengths and weaknesses. The majority has not.

Someone really really good will be there for us to take. Will be really fun to watch the end of the first round, early second round this year to see who “falls”.

I appreciate you interpreting it correctly I believe they have different areas where they are better than each other, but in general they are close in most of them. However, most of the time it does feel like the Young supporters believe that Young is better or the same in every area. Him being short is actually great and one of his many strengths etc. It is ok to admit he’s not perfect. He can still be your guy. I think that’s where a lot if the discussions go sideways.

I don’t.

I’m prefer Stroud, and believe the same thing. I like it even more when you can combine it with a strong arm, that’s the ideal situation.

I’m totally cool to disagree, I like most of the debate as different perspectives are good. Reading your statement it seem to infer that Stroud can’t move and throw out if the pocket. And I think that is one the big differences is between us. I believe he can. I also believe that the majority of plays are still made from the pocket. I believe Stroud is the better passer. I also don’t believe Young can run around in the NFL as he did in college. But if you do, I totally understand why you prefer him.

Personally I only use discredited sources since nobody credible would even dare to think Young is anything short of perfect in any way.

If you ignore his size and arm strength he probably is the best QB in the draft. But that’s not really how it works in real life though. Stroud is widely considered the best pure passer in the draft, so it comes down to your preference in what you are looking for. I think they are very close, so I’ll side on the one I think is the better overall passer and the one better suited to win from the pocket. But I understand people enamored with Young’s skill set as well.

For sure. He also knew there isn’t where his strength lie so he avoided it instead of not looking good. Probably a smart choice, but also a meh choice for being such a competitor. Would have been nice to see him throw and weigh 205 lbs at the same time, but I don’t think we ever will.

Would it be preferable if Young could just throw the ball with a flick of his wrist? Yes. Are there some doubts about his arm strength? Yes. Does it mean he won’t be a great quarterback? Not necessarily.

We don’t know because he was to scared to do testing at the combine

We don’t know if he can do it well because we haven’t seen him do it. Doesn’t mean he can’t (hint to anti-Stroud folks here ). My main concern is if they didn’t do it because of him being really short, if that is true it would limit our playbook quite a bit. But it might also just be the design of the Alabama offense regardless who’s at QB.

I’m close to fifty and still love reading fantasy books, it’s my go to. The Order of the Sanguines by James Rollins is the best I’ve read in a while. But I’m a Rollins fan in general. Still consider the Hobit an all timer.

He was so smart it kind of made people forget what an athletic freak he was. But it was the combination of the two that made him who he was.

Brandon Smith is super interesting, could be a total boom or bust. If boom however, watch out!

I have to pushback a bit on this one. Luke was an exceptional athlete with good height and weight just slightly below average. If there was a RAS type scoring for QB attributes Young would ace some of the mental stuff, but size, arm strength etc. would not score well at all. But I get what you are trying to do.

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. However, so far 100% of all these reports are 100% based on what the reporter would do themselves, there is not an ounce of sourcing from inside the Panthers org. It is really annoying they they all paint it as something they’ve learned, when it is just made up. Even Mortenson admitted that that was his mock draft pick.

I feel a bit bad for who goes second, the difference in going to Texans vs going to us is massive.

I think you are thinking of Scott Fowler from the Observer

I think they both had a similar injury in College.

I thought I read that Young holds the ball for 3 seconds, maybe I don’t remember correctly?