XClown1986

It was discussed in detail at the time that the selling point of Frank Reich being hired was more about the "great coaching staff" he could bring with him. I don't think Tepper really saw Frank as the "head coach" so much as the lynchpin connecting the team to a wealth of coaching minds. Which turned out to be fool's gold and Tepper looked ridiculous because of it.

I understand that scheme matters, however, Cam did get put into a system that people suggested was a poor fit and they were wrong. Norv Turner had a type and always valued a pocket passer, which wasn't Cam. I remember people being worried that Norv would take away Cam's strengths, or that Cam wasn't a naturally accurate passer so he would struggle to run Norv's offense, etc. But both player and coach adapted. And Cam played well and posted career highs in completed passes and completion percentage. So it is difficult for me to look at a young coach and QB pairing and just suggest "it can't work." If they want it to, it can. Even Canales said it took him and Bryce getting to know each other more and what plays they liked to run and how they could make plays work and expand on that. So you may have a point that Canales was simply trying to run his offense at the beginning of the season and it wasn't working, but there is also evidence to show that Canales is willing to adapt the offense because of how different the results were later. The video that was posted a little while back talked about how Canales tried to run more plays bunched around Bryce to offer more protection, but what Bryce needed was more options to throw to, so we started running a lot more empty sets and Bryce started succeeding. It's stuff like that that shows that this is evolving in the right way.

How is building a solid offensive line and drafting a 1st round receiver in consecutive years setting him up for failure? If anything, they are investing in assets to help him. And the blame you put on Carolina is that they drafted Bryce Young in the first place, because you suggest in a lot of your posts that you don't think he can be a good quarterback anywhere, which pins the blame of failure on... Bryce Young.

So you're telling me if Joe Burrow was throwing to Bryce's receivers last year and not Jamarr Chase and Tee Higgins, this wouldn't change? Joe Burrow is great, no doubt. I think he might be the best QB in the NFL. But his top 2 receivers are fantastic as well, and that makes things easier. Even Tom Brady, the king of tearing teams apart with short passes, played differently when he had Randy Moss or Mike Evans. You have to trust the guys to make those plays downfield, or you take the higher percentage play. It's why guys like Chad Pennington were able to make a moderate career out of a weak arm, and guys like Rex Grossman flamed out quickly. I'm excited to see Bryce in year 3 with his promising young receiver group because he is showing more trust in his guys this year (based on camp and preseason). Bryce has shown he can be accurate, but his guys have to make the catch and build that trust.

I was literally about to reply and say the exact same thing. I don't know what the coaching staff sees in him.

For all of the people upset about Renfrow being cut, did you ever think that maybe he wanted to be cut because he would essentially be 4th or 5th on the depth chart and he wants to go where he will be able to get on the field? Just saying, we don't have all of the information.

??? We signed a QB, RB, WR, CB, and S so far.

One guy we should seriously consider is Willie Lampkin. Could be future starter at center.

I'm waiting for the Ravens to release their cuts. Jay Higgins would be a great get for us if he is cut

They probably would like to bring him back on the practice squad and let him continue working his way back.

I remember guys banging the table for Malachi Corley in last year's draft. Well, he is being waived by the Jets.

Where are you getting this from?

Absolutely. Much appreciated.

Where did you see this? Just curious

Dude. Stop. These were suggestions, not actual transactions.

No, only around 250k was guaranteed. The 3 year contract was worth up to 2 mil.

This one is mildly surprising given how well he has played the past few years. If we aren't completely settled with Smith-Wade as our nickel, then I'd want to bring him in for a visit.

Rational is not trading away the few assets we actually have so that we can attempt to compete. The fact is, everyone behind Theilen is an unknown. I understand trading players for picks if it is in the best interest of the team, and everyone can be had for a price. I'm simply saying his value is higher than you are suggesting.

You and I didn't watch the same receiver play last year then. Theilen is still a receiver capable of 1000 yards in a season. The only reason he didn't have 1000+ last year is because he got injured. That's worth a 3rd round pick. And if we need a guy on our team to make a 3rd down conversion, who is the guy that you can depend on? Theilen is that guy.

Hopkins only had 170 yards in 6 games for the Titans before he was traded. He could go to a competitor, and the Titans got to dump 5.5 mil in salary and acquire another draft pick towards their inevitable rebuild. It's not the same situation.

I'm in this boat also. We know Thielen is going to be productive and make clutch catches. Everyone else is hypothetical based on potential.

It will be interesting to see how this is structured with the cap

I think Theilen wants to play for the Panthers or retire. Even IF we wanted to trade him, I doubt it could happen.

The gas-lighting in this thread is laughable. So lets get a couple of things straight: 1. I'm not romanticizing the huddle of old. There were always annoyances and arguments and people losing their heads. The difference? They were outliers. The reason you can remember guys like Chuck is because they stood out as the problem. And they were reacted to and dealt with accordingly without it being necessary to run tattling to mods. There was an expectation of how you carried yourself and how you responded to others. That has become increasingly flexible. That's a fact. 2. The fact that the team sucks, the owner sucks, the coach sucks, or whatever the flavor of the moment is, doesn't give immunity to your behavior and interaction with others. We have far too many people with the inability to manage themselves and they simply shrug off any culpability because the team "isn't winning" and simply say they have a right to criticize the team. Yes you do, but you don't have the right to demean or demoralize others or continually derail threads with constant verbal bashing and criticisms. Your behavior and interactions are on you. Period. Be critical of the team, the owner, whomever. But its the interactions with other posters and with topics that is the problem.

Look man, my gripe isn't with you and I know you mean well, but you have to stop with the customer service line reads and actually get in tune with the board. Truly. If you enjoy it here and can suggest others do as well, I'd love to hear how you sell it. But I'd rather hear the truth.