XClown1986

I agree. I think the Raiders want more draft capital and are looking to move down. I think Mendoza is doomed to be a Jet or a Brown (with the Cardinals as a sleeper, depending on what they decide to do with Kyler Murray).

Both were hard to watch. No doubt. I just know that when watching Clausen I was actively screaming at the TV for his inept play. Bryce, I more felt bad for? Different feelings of frustration.

Give me a choice between the two right now? I'm taking Bryce. It's not false. And it is objective. I'm sorry your "reality" doesn't allow you to see that.

Cam is an exponentially better football player. No question. But saying Bryce is in the same conversation as Clausen? Go back and watch Jimmy again bro. Not even close.

Stroud is who I thought he would be. He is a robot. He will make automatic, open throws, but he will crumble under pressure and in contested situations. People always used the Georgia game as an example of what "he could be". That was the outlier. That's not who he is regularly. The Panthers chose right. Was the choice good enough? This next year will tell us. And before the Bryce bashers say "yeah lets see how he does in year 11... Meh meh meh..." The fact is that this is an ascending roster with expectations going into next season. Bryce has to show up and show out. If he doesnt? 2027 is a good year to need a QB in the draft.

Say what you want about easier paths or whatever, but Cam did have some of the most prolific players in Panthers history on his offense in 2011. Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart Bryce had... Taylor Moton? So... Yeah. And this isnt a knock on Cam at all. He elevated this team. It's a knock on Jimmy Clausen. Dude was balls.

But but PFF doesn't know what they are talking about and only give skewed statistics...

Whatever was working last year for the draft, they need to replicate that going forward. Proud of the young guys and I'm excited to see their jump in year 2

All I'm saying is that CJ isn't showing much. If Bryce doesn't pan out, then the Panthers need to draft someone else. Trading for CJ isn't the answer to our problem.

I know you like to be the sarcastic Bryce basher around here, but their trend lines crossed this year. Now it's just about what happens from here.

One QB is getting better every year while one is getting worse every year. It's not crazy logic, it's just logic

You all are this high on Robinson? I have felt like he gets mauled in the run game for such a big guy. Certainly not worth 9.5 mil per. Tremble is the only guy I would try to work out a deal with. Might be our best tight end currently (not saying a lot, but he has made plays)

Absolutely not. It's either Bryce or draft a new QB for the Panthers. Trading for Stroud isn't even a lateral move, it's a step down.

Caleb even said that the route initially called was an over route with DJ crossing over above the other routes. Caleb wanted to change the route and have him flatten out but DJ didn't get the call. Miscommunication. But the fact is that when Caleb let that ball go, DJ was nowhere in the vicinity. He should have seen that and gone elsewhere. It was a bad decision.

He lead DJ too wide and underneath on a crossing route. It was a bad throw. DJ could have shown more effort, but it was only likely to be as a defender on the intercepting player. That's the dichotomy of Caleb so far. He can make some wow plays and some WTF plays. He is actually lucky his supporting cast is so good or else there would be a lot more WTF plays.

The issue is the position Bryce plays. Finding a good/great quarterback isn't easy. Plus, it sometimes takes years for these guys to actually become good/great. What you have to look for is progress instead of regression. Bryce has shown that. Can he put it all together? We don't know yet. But that's why you place a smaller bet with the 5th year option, and wait to see. You could be wrong and lose your 30 mil bet, but you didn't hitch your wagon long-term and lose much more.

This is where I'm at as well.

I do

Laughable. Literally not one of those quarterbacks is better than Young. Howell and Minshew just aren't starter quality. Lance and Willis are athletic busts that can maybe provide a flash in a pan for a game or two, but haven't shown any indication they can be the guy for a full season.

God, I hate that we are keeping Evero. Lets hope the Raiders are dumb enough to hire him as their head coach.

Open your eyes. Chuba should catch that. It hit him in the hands. Arguing that the pass should be a few inches here or there is absurd.

"Call out" is a stretch. Inspire? Motivate? Lean on? Yes. But he recognizes that the greatness of our team is only going to happen through these players that have shown they can be great.

I miss Cam's passion and theatrics on the team. The man just loves ball. And he loves to win. He's just a fun guy. And he gets giddy like a kid on Christmas morning for Carolina being a winner. I love it.

The optimist in me says that we play our most complete game of the year and pull off a shocking 31-17 win. We have a lot of guys on the roster with playoff/Superbowl experience (oddly enough, a lot of them were on the winning Rams team from several years back) and they know what it takes to come alive and play together at the right time. But the realist in me says that LA is just a better team with better coaching. They will be aggressive and motivated, and we lose 34-10.

Yeah we can't let this happen. Give the guy another title and a raise or something. Whatever it takes to keep him around for a bit.