Mr. Scot

He didn't think they would either. He did say that was as much as he'd offer though, with the rationale being that throwing Burns in there essentially makes the deal equal to three first round picks.

I genuinely didn't think this post would lead to a debate I guess it's true that Huddlers will argue over just about anything

McCaffrey isn't cap practical. If I recall correctly, our resident movie Shogun suggested two firsts and Brian Burns. Would you be on board with that?

Saw this from one of SI's Panther guys... I'm not sure whether he's talking about King's proposal or Schrager's.

Wilson's skill set is phenomenal. His frame and physical makeup scare the hell out of me.

There was a comment about Fields in the draft forum attributed to a scout, something to the effect of they examined every play of his season and he only very rarely ever looked off his first read. Valid? No idea, but to be fair that's the way a lot of college systems are set up these days.

I like the direction the team is heading, but I have to admit I'd have a hard time being optimistic about Kellen Mond.

... is the guy playing Andre the Giant on The Rock's new show. That's probably about as good a choice as you could find for that role.

A standard trade, maybe not. But if you give up the kind of things we're talking about giving up, you better win a championship.

Yes I did. You give up a third round pick and that doesn't work out? It's salvageable. You give up a first round pick and it doesn't work out? That gets you a dirty look from the owner, but it's still manageable. You trade more than one first round pick and it doesn't lead to a championship? You're on thin ice...at best. You give up some of the ridiculous trade packages we're talking about here and you don't win a championship with the guy you gave up all that stuff for in short order? Your ass is fired.

We traded a third round pick for Olsen. Think we can get Deshaun Watson for a third round pick?

Bill Voth posted this... ...a clip of Steve Smith throwing a crushing block on Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway. That tweet later received a fun response from a surprising source.

It was a hypothetical example. Teams don't generally come out and say "we made bad decisions and had a sh-tty season", but they still do so pretty frequently.

I'm saying only blockbuster trades that helped a team win championships can truly be called a success. If all you can say is "we gave up a sh-tload for this player and afterward we were...pretty good", then you didn't reach the goal.

I'm not trading away the kind of package we're talking about just to get the best player at the position. If the answer to the question doesn't include championships, then no it's not good enough.

The trade packages that are being discussed now are exaggerated to the point that about the only comparison is the Herschel Walker trade.

Articles like this are basically just sh-t flinging. They don't really look at the details.

McCaffrey, Burns, Anderson and two first round picks... No way in hell.

Maybe teams don't like it? I know NFL Shop prohibits certain things (Carruth jerseys, for example). Could also be that people have done that in the past and then tried to get refunds when it didn't turn out.

I get the sense that if Panther fans spend months salivating over Deshaun Watson only to see us wind up with Mac Jones, this isn't gonna be a happy place to visit.

I think they do that sort of thing sometimes around free agency time. Not sure what the harm would be but that's their thing, I suppose.

The problem in most of these places is they're seen as quarterbacks who just happened to be on exceptional teams rather than exceptional quarterbacks. And yeah, previous draftees have lent a lot of support to that idea.

No argument. He wouldn't be my choice, especially not at 8, but if we take him I'll hope for the best.

"I'll take 'Things Nobody Needs To See' for a hundred, Alex."

I think Jonathan Stewart nailed that one.