Khyber53

My biggest worry about a Jalon pick is that well, he'll be pretty good. And right now, we need great. We are a long ways from being fixed around here. That's why I say grab Warren if he's still there at 8. We need the biggest, no doubt, hit immediately player available at pick #8 and he is both the most likely and one of the best overall football players in the draft. Grab him and then build onto the defense. And honestly, I'm not sure any player can fix the defense as long as Evero is still calling it. I don't have any faith in his coaching right now. I hope he can prove me wrong, but I'm not sure he could have made a working defense with Peppers, Kuechly and Gamble back there. Take the best player, don't draft for need.

I thought you said he never made use of a TE in his systems before... seems like from your post that he did. Just sayin'...

Oh, I'm not giving up on him, and I hope he grows and grows into a great TE, but he is far from dominant on the field right now. Pair him up with another young, but dominant TE and it opens a world of opportunities for our offense, both in the passing and rushing game. We would move more into the dictating our game to the other team than having their defense ram what they wanted to down our throats. We need hitters on offense. We need multi-role guys on the field. And we need some punch in the now before Thielen finally gets caught by Father Time.

45Catfan pretty much answered this. But... on the junior season, I'd happily take a guy who managed 7 touchdowns in 34 passes. Plus blocked. And then as a senior they roll him out not just as a receiver and a blocker, but as a running back and wildcat QB. He is the prototypical football guy a team needs.

When has Bryce had a good TE?

When has Canales had a really good TE in his system?

This time of the year, people without real football get trade fever. It's a real disease, a scourge on the sport, and it drives fans into frenzied states of conjecture and jackassery. Draft trades, player trades, coach trades and maybe even a mascot or two. Can't wait for the draft so that some of these trade scenarios will just be dust in the wind, not to return until next February or so. I am weary of trade talk. So weary.

If you watch, he creates the space with physicality. This isn't an issue for him. He has great hands when covered tightly and then just crashes the guy out of the way. We've got to get this guy.

Whoa.

Tyler Warren. Either take him at 8 or watch the Saints do it and then have to get whooped by him twice a season for the next 10 years. Take a DE in the second round. There are plenty of them and a lot of those people are suggesting at 1st round have needs for development. Get the TE that can complete our offense and start playing day 1.

I agree, owners should stay out of the process of making picks. But... owners gonna own. If a billionaire wants something, nowadays they get it, even a gig as Vice president un-elect. Honestly, though, I've been saying we need an overhaul of the entire scouting department (college and pro levels) for close to a decade now. It's sad to say this but we've been crap at it since Hurney left. And man, that wasn't a big hurdle to clear for those that followed.

Why in the world would a world-class organization like the Steelers and an all-time great coach like Tomlin invite the Sanders family into their fold? It would be like inviting a tornado into your brand new double-wide. If it happens, it'll be the end of the Steelers for a decade. Of course, we'd be sitting pretty.

Good luck to him, thanks for being here and we move on just as he did. Solid backing and ST player.

Just grab Warren and then work on defense.

Honestly, his biggest role at training camp this year will be to help Bryce get things off the top shelf.

I kinda tried to say this before last year's draft, the student and the master yadda yadda, but no one was listening. And I'm trying to be optimistic. But for a "football guy with good instincts with the right training" we didn't really hit on anyone until UDFAs. It's still early to judge that draft, but... Morgan needs to make a homerun here.

No more trading up in the first round, please.

Starting with our defensive coordinator. We can't draft one of those, though.

No doubt, and I do see this is just one of our many issues. We can't be sure we've fixed any of our problems yet, offensive or defensive, because everything is still on paper as you said. Still, Edge, while obviously a need, I'm just not sure we pick one as a need that might be not up to the #8 pick when there are some real standouts that very well could still be able. Yes, I want to see us take Warren, a TE at 8, but there are DTs and other spots that could also still have some massive talent on the table at our pick spot. And that, coming off of injury thing still gives me pause.

I was kinda leaning in your direction on this one until I saw the comment "assuming he gets healthy." And that put the stops on this for me. We don't have the time for someone to get healthy. Not right now. And our coach and GM can't have the patience for that at this time. Their seats are still just Tepper stable.

And the fact that our offense was three and outing it so often that opposing offenses had two or three more possessions per game than they usually would have. That eats up a bad defense even worse.

I've hoped that for a long time now. I don't think there's much to see here. Sadly. I'd love to be proven wrong by the guy, though.

Glad to hear the news, hope you keep improving!

Heck, that was just his baby oil and rufees budget.

10 years from now, they are going to be talking about him being the guy of this draft, the undisputed best pick. Just like they did 10 years after Luke was picked. You remember, we picked who? A linebacker at number 9? Who throws away a pick on a linebacker that high? He's not even a pass rusher??? If Dan Morgan has the opportunity and doesn't take Warren with our pick, he's a fool. All the other positional players still available at our current pick (and even some who will be taken before, like QB) are one of a group of folks among the best, part of a cluster, some slightly better than the rest. At TE you have Tyler, very much way out in front for his position group AND way out in front among all the players in the draft. There are no medical dings, no personality dings, no intelligence dings, no coaching dings, no legal dings. Grab the guy and move on. The hard, difficult choices follow in the second and later rounds, save the homework for those picks.