kungfoodude

This was the draft to pull a Spurs and trade towards the future. Instead we take the longest of long shots and a guy that couldn't possibly make any meaningful impact for at least 3 years. Ghost of Jordan still haunting the place. Should have just taken a guy like Dalton that could actually play a role on the team immediately. Oh well, Bobnets gonna Bobnet.

Something I have said for several seasons. When we tore down the entire roster, it would take years to rebuild. We are years in and still haven't built it back up. That's one reason why I was so adamantly against a complete rebuild. It takes a LONG time even with semi-competent people in the front office(something we never had). Also exactly why I don't think we will see a winning record before at least 2030.

It was definitely the dumbest move/non-move in Panthers team history. The only thing that makes it sting less is that we would have fuged up all those picks anyway, so would it have actually mattered?

You are literally naming players we overpaid but aren't premium players(minus CMC, that's just a non-premium position). We suck at team building because we hire moron after moron in the front office and/or as head coach. That's how you end up turning down a haul for Burns that could have changed our fortunes completely. But, that would require them not to be idiots. The CMC haul was probably the best RB haul you will see in a long time but the idiots in charge immediately squandered the draft capital gained. Most of the players we have had go elsewhere and find success, had success here too. The far greater pool is players that weren't successful here, a portion of the idiots here still believe are just being held back by some situation here but then they go elsewhere and stink. More fodder for the very obvious, which is that we have some of the worst talent evaluators in the NFL.

Cap has nothing to do with it. You can't pay players mega premium money if they aren't mega premium players. That's how you stay bad for a long time.

We change things all the time. That same system of play that won FL a Cup....that is what we do, BTW

He can be stubborn but it's belief in his guys. That poo is also why a lot of these guys love him. Look, his trajectory is great. We just need to tinker and stay the course.

Let it play out. Chill. There is no reason to be antsy. This is literally arguably the best period in franchise history. When/if we win a Cup, it would OVERWHELMINGLY be the best period in franchise history. Take some notes from the other POS franchise we root for, stop and smell the roses a little. I wish I knew how good those good times were for the Panthers. I wish I had appreciated them more then.

I suspect he will have more than one sub-double digit sack season during the term of that deal.

Yeah, but will it be a $30 million career year?

I was not upset to see him sign a 30 mil contract elsewhere. I suspect he will never make the numbers to make that logical.

I tried to think up some. Strangely they all ended up being horror movies.

That was my take. The Rangers were really the only team I feared.

I get that you are a Panthers fan, so being logic is difficult but you are just plain retarded if you want to blow this all up. Literally the least logical thing that could be done. But, I get it, maybe we will get to keep CMC and get to 6 wins.....

Yeah, well, FL almost got swept in the Finals last year.

The hysterics about getting rid of the best coach in franchise history(to date) six years into his career is just insanity. Obviously people are forgetting the 9 year playoff drought he brought us out of. Obviously people are forgetting that he has 75% of the 100+ point seasons in the 44 years of franchise existence. Obviously people are forgetting the 4 of the 10 total 90+ points in the 44 years of franchise existence. Obviously people are forgetting the 3 of 7 total first place division titles in the 44 years of franchise existence. Everyone needs to chill the fug out.

Ian Thomas, training camp HOFer. Well, I know that if our rookie doesn't beat this dude out(over the season), we got another wasted pick on our hands. I know that if Canales buys into this BS, we got another bust coach on our hands. This is one of the most predictable things in every Panthers pre-season. Ian Thomas somehow convincing coaches that he is an NFL player.

Well we are 4-2 in the regular season and 0-4 in the playoffs versus them while he has been there. I would say the overwhelming biggest difference has been their goalie. If they are so much better than us, why in a postseason where we were missing so many players did they beat us by a total of 4 goals? All the poo that is being said about Rod was said about Maurice for literally almost three decades.

I mean....Dan Snyder tried too.

Most people in the NFL are fast. You need to scheme people open(which we were unable to do 90+% of the time) and you need players that are capable of being technically proficient enough to get open(TMJ and Mingo are not these players). Typical fixation on size/athletic numbers without enough regard to other aspects of being an effective football player. We are terrible at this but it isn't an uncommon occurence in the NFL.

I will give that he is insanely young but the ROA is very low. Poisonous contract too.

It is what it is. His contract is almost up. Could be a lot worse. Reference KK.

We are always gonna have our "sunshiners" looking positively towards the next season but at this point the only thing that is going to satisfy the majority of the remaining fanbase is fuging winning. And a lot of it, at that. No articles, no training camp reports, no preseason performances are going to change a fuging thing. Meaningful, regular season wins and winning records will change the way the fanbase looks at the franchise and the owner. That's it. There is no other cure(save Tepper selling the team).

I know ample amounts of real, in person Panthers fans. I don't personally know any that don't think we are a joke.

I am fine with 50/50. You have to assume at this point Freddie is gonna miss a lot of time with injury so it will end up being closer to that 2/3.