kungfoodude

Yep. And had we lost to the Redskins and had the #4 pick, we may not have gotten a franchise QB. Had we traded into the top 3, we may not have gotten a franchise QB. You just keep shooting until you hit a bullseye. For historically bad franchises(which we are perilously close to being) it takes a very long time on average.

If Darnold plays well, I would think that we are not very likely to trade him unless whichever rookie on the roster is clearly better(which would make me assume they might be starting towards the end of the season).

I don't think we expended future draft capital as a smokescreen. They believe Darnold could be the guy and they know Teddy cannot, so they made the trade. I sincerely hope that they haven't put all their eggs in the Darnold basket and would pass on one of the top 4 QB's that drops(save them just not liking them as a prospect).

IMO, if Fields or Lance is there, you take them. As someone described in another thread, we are now at "throwing poo at the wall" for QB. Well, time to grab as much poo as possible. Fields and Lance are way, way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY shinier turds than Darnold.

If we pick up his 5th year option, it's basically Teddy Deal 2.0. One of the most attractive things about Darnold for us is that he is on a cheap, one year deal. Even if the cap jumps, it isn't going to be smart to be toting around an $18.9 mil backup QB or failed starting QB. That's pretty much the situation we are in now. So, you have mostly bad outcomes from picking up his option, with just one good outcome.

There was an absolute floor in regards to the price of the deal. Darnold had compensatory pick value for the Jets. The price might have been lower after the draft, however. I don't think there would be a lot of panic for the teams that whiffed on free agency and the draft.

If Fields or Lance slips(I am assuming that Wilson and Lawrence will not), you take them if you like them as prospects. If not, you take a LT(Sewell/Slater) if available. If none of those are available, evaluate BPA and trade options. The third scenario is likely to net us a good player but not move the bar on helping the franchise in the next couple of seasons. Eventually you have to get QB and OL figured out or the odds of being a Super Bowl champion get pretty slim.

Well, that happens when your better options are largely gone. Stafford was #1 but we got scooped by LA, Watson was #2 but he isn't likely to be an option until next season at the earliest and trading up in the draft is going to be almost as expensive at Watson would have been. I can't imagine those "why" conversations with Tepper, Rhule and Fitterer coming to the conclusion that we should trade away tons of draft capital for one of these QB's in the draft. I like the top 4 guys a lot but the price of being wrong(as the 49ers may well find out) could hurt for a long time. So, that's kind of what we have left....throwing poo at the wall. Darnold is one of the shiner remaining turds we can throw, I suppose. At least there is a glimmer of upside still remaining, although the optimism about his career trajectory has obviously faded pretty dramatically. The truth is that we made a bad decision last year with Teddy and had some piss poor luck in facing a bad enough team/coach late in the season. Both of those factors didn't help our QB prospects for this offseason. We are gonna be in another unenviable position as fans this season, wishing for the best and then rooting for the worst if this decision doesn't work out. Otherwise we are going to be stuck in franchise purgatory for a while.

Basically this. The owner is clearly invested in Rhule but I do think his seat atop the personnel decisions chair may start getting pretty warm if this was another Rhule decision that backfires. This is inferring a lot of things that we don't actually know but I don't think he comes out of a "Sam Darnold disaster starter" scenario unscathed, that is for sure.

You do realize that your explanation is describing a "panic move" right? Similar to what I said in another thread, I don't see how there can be a lot of optimism about something that is easily our 4th best option at replacing Teddy this offseason. The most optimism I can muster is that I hope I get proven wrong and he turns out to be something other than....current Sam Darnold.

Being young works for being a rookie. Darnold is not a rookie. He has multiple years of NFL starting experience. Make no mistake, this is probably his last shot to prove he can be an NFL starter. If he whiffs here, he's destined to the journeyman backup QB realm. Not bad for him monetarily but it will make us look like fools, yet again, as a franchise.

I guess we will see how that comment ages. If the QB taken third in this draft ends up being an elite QB, that won't age well. Especially if Sam Darnold keeps being Sam Darnold. Quite honestly, the fact that this was likely our fourth option for QB, at best, that isn't encouraging. The fact that we were likely the only team in the NFL to make that offer, way, way, way less encouraging. On the positive side, I think we are about to see how this GM/coaching staff combo is going to work out. If this flames out, ooh wee mayne.........

The bourbon game is crazy, tho.

Dogg, I just left working in Cleveland.

Remember, you just never know who you are fuging with when you are talking and/or starting poo.

OMG. What a finish.

Cannot buy a fuging goal.

Nail biter.

We should be up 3-4 goals.

That Brazilian booty will get you every time.

Get your goddamn vaccine derailing out of the shitter thread

Awful, awful way to start this home stand. Just not a game we need to get zero points.

Ned really struggling with rebound control tonight. Very uncharacteristic of him.

Literally almost every QB prospects probably has some level of footwork or mechanics issues. Some analysts just freak out about it and assume it cannot be coached.