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He is the 13th highest QB salary this season and will be 10th in 2022. Prescott will likely push him down the ladder but Big Ben and Alex Smith may get cut, so he could actually end up higher in 2021. It was an atrocious signing, for an atrocious amount, by an atrocious GM. As for why this dead horse keeps being so heartily beaten? Well that is no mystery at all.........it's February. This is one of the 2-3 months during the year during which most of the horse hamburger is made.

I have seen breakdowns of each round the the further you go into the draft, the lower the likelihood of getting a long term starter or effective player basically by the round. Frankly, after about the 3rd round the success rates drop drastically across the board. Rather unsurprisingly, I believe the position with the greatest success in the first three rounds was OL and DL.

I think we need to either pursue Watson or trade up if we like a couple of these top 4 QB's. Otherwise, stand pat and take the best OL/CB/WR available at 8 and then fill out roster needs the rest of the draft. I am not a fan of gambling on lower tier QB prospects like Jones or Trask. If you gamble, gamble big like Lance or Fields or Wilson. I would also like to see us avoid making typical Hurney mistakes(like taking a LB or RB in the top 10).

I like Jameis but the odds of him still being on the market after the NFL Draft are pretty slim. If we haven't gotten a valid free agent option prior to the draft, there aren't likely to be many better options that Teddy on the free agent market. There aren't going to be but a couple when free agency opens.

The first round is far kinder statistically. This has been something that had been looked at by more than one source and the statistics bear out that first round QB's have greater career success on average. That shouldn't be a surprise, as they are typically widely regarded as better prospects. I am not interested in a non-first round QB this season not only because those prospects are not likely to be any better than what we have now but because we are a team with many needs and "wishing and hoping" in the second round is sort of what our past GM was famous for. This is an extremely deep OL draft, take a guy that can replace replace 3-4 starters that will be gone from that unit. Or take any number of othet positions we have big two deep needs(TE, DE, DT, LB, S, CB, etc).

Tom Brady is Tom Brady because he is probably the biggest competitor to play in the NFL in the past 40 years. Tons of QB's have had Tom Brady's physical skills or better over the past 30 years but there is only one Tom Brady. Mac Jones is pretty similar to a lot of the backup QB's in the NFL currently. So unless you believe he is an elite level competitor or has elite intangibles, there isn't a big reason to draft a guy like him. Mostly average to slightly above average attributes for a prospect.

How much do you hate our team exactly????

We don't have gambling room. That second round pick could easily be an 8 year starter on our OL versus a 4 year backup QB that signs elsewhere to be a backup. The history of non-first round QB's is not kind. It's fun to point out the outliers but they are that precisely for that reason, they are remarkable. How did that Will Grier gamble work out? Jimmy Clausen? Pike? LeFors? Fasani? Wienke? Colquitt? Those are just OUR non-first round QB's. The rest of the league isn't too far off.

We have bigger needs than a backup/journeyman caliber QB. If you miss on the top 4, your evaluation better show he is a top 15 caliber prospect. If not, get a player that can actually help us.

Third time this has been posted here and it doesn't make Weis look any better than the first two times.

Now where is our resident "Watson won't consider us becuz Cam is his buddy" poster? He's already backpedalled from that statement, let's see how far he can backpedal more.

Well we gave him the biggest QB contract in franchise history in terms of average salary and his 2021 salary will be the second highest we have ever paid a player at any position. I believe it is actually a top 5 biggest contract we have ever handed out in terms of total value. I'd say that is pretty bad.

I liked that article until I saw someone ranked Ian Thomas, and then I knew that one dummy had skewed the three data points.

No, it gets accelerated. It is either $17 or 21 mil this season alone, IIRC.

The only way I'd trade CMC is for an elite QB or a draft haul. Like 2 first round picks and change. Otherwise we are just nuking our cap space we just created.

This is the thing that seems to get lost on everyone. Just because the Jets and Dolphins have the resources to trade for Watson doesn't mean they will so easily pony them up. It takes two to tango. What we know is that Tepper appears to be making eyes across the dance floor and headed the Texans way

It shouldn't be. He cannot help us win games. It is the one thing he has proved.

He has the same career INT% as Jared Goff and Kirk Cousins, slightly worse than someone like Kyler Murray. He's about mid-range for an NFL starter in taking care of the ball. The thing that he consistently sucks at isn't really turning the ball over, it's getting the ball into the endzone. His career TD% is atrocious. I had to dig deep to find similar rates. Brandon Allen, Blaine Gabbert, Brian Hoyer. So, essentially he has the TD percentage of a career backup. This is actually something I hadn't looked at until now but it is pretty eye opening to see where he slots into that category.

Dammit. Wanted at least a point from this one.

Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

Maybe it keeps flooding since we got our 6785th inch of rain in the past month.

Well that was Fast.

That's true, it mainly has been.

Yeah but it is just us. That is what is confusing.