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IDK. So hard to know what the market is going to look like. If it is anything like the normal free agency period, if he doesn't get signed in the first week or so, he probably isn't going to get a big deal.

I disagree but you will have plenty of crow to serve if that is indeed the case.

Okay. That makes sense, in that case. Objection withdrawn.

Okay, so this is a rating that doesn't take into account the actual performance of the guys in the NFL last season?

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Yeah, quite honestly, I would take Herbert over any of those QB's at the moment. Only maybe Fields and Lance can touch his ceiling and he has actually shown it on the field.

Interesting ranking. Why would you take Burrow, Wilson and Tua over Herbert?

Yeah, that's also not a really high bar. The "best ball of his career" still might just be enough to be a middling NFL starter, unless it is a big step up from where he has been playing.

I tend to agree with that. Teddy isn't much worse, if at all worse than most of the free agent options. Especially when you consider that you have to either tie more money up into the position by signing an additional free agent QB that might compete or generate a big chunk of dead money by jettisoning Teddy. If we can't get Watson or draft a QB, it probably makes more sense to just stand pat and build with what we have for the short term.

No, he isn't. They can just flat out sign him if they want him.

"Never" is a bad take. The draft is all about risks. It all comes down to how much you trust your organizational evaluation. If your scouting department, coaching staff and GM all think Player X is "the guy" then maybe that big price to go get him isn't outlandish. But, you are then subject to the backlash if that ends up whiffing. We just got rid of a front office guy that had a lot of "bold" takes on prospects. It didn't work out too well.

Eh......yes he is just a one year guy but I don't know that I would peg him as a prospect I would expect to have much in terms of ceiling. Reasonably high floor(probably solid journeyman backup QB level) to fairly low ceiling(Chad Pennington, Case Keenum ish) starter in the NFL. Could he be Brees? Eh.....maybe, but that seems like taking a pretty big gamble on him being the outlier. I think that is the thing that makes him a polarizing prospect. Some see that he seems to have a grasp for some of the more nuanced aspects of the position and then the rest will see the very obvious physical/skill limitations.

That's just it. We have no idea what our actual QB evaluation will be. If we trade up, we'll have some idea.

Don't kink shame.

Tired of getting pics of his butthole?

Depends on the ultimate cost. We are in the speculation heavy portion of the offseason. Things will be clearer in a couple of weeks.

Not what I would call high caliber starters, at the moment. TBD if that will remain the case.

And he was a backup to Tua and Jalen Hurts(although he was technically a redshirt).

And I think the price could go up significantly because the market is so bullish. Now, one thing you aren't considering is that a chunk of those teams(us included, admittedly) can move players in lieu of picks for the total package. In San Francisco's case, that actually makes more sense. For a team like New Orleans(as an example) that makes a TON of sense, because they need to jettison salary. The scenarios are absolutely crazy. I am pumped, honestly. It is gonna be a wild ride.

There are a lot of factors involved. The Watson situation, the price the top 4 teams that aren't taking QB's want and the desperation level of the pool of QB needy teams. Plus, maybe some of those teams don't have Wilson, Fields or Lance as top 10 caliber.

If Mrazek comes back in that form, we will start pulling away from Tampa.

He seems to be a guy that has a chip on his shoulder, really invests a lot of work in his craft and also his a fantastic teammate. His intangibles seem to be very good. I think he is a guy that you can expect to continue to put in the work and get better and better.

We got competent LT play for half a season and got rid of a guy who never played on a bad contract. Okung is now off the books and I think at the minimum we finally realize you can't trot out JAG after JAG at LT and expect good results.