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Stupid question but I have always wondered the answer. If a player agreed to cancel his contract, and sign a new one would a team still be responsible for the old contract as it relates to the cap? Specific to the Panthers- what if Sam agreed to take $9m vs the $18m owed to him? Most would ask why would he do this? The answer is he probably would not. However, knowing that the Panthers may be his last chance to prove he is an NFL QB, he might be willing to reduce his cap to be a team player and also so they could get sign some oline help and etc. In other words, Sam would be betting on himself and I would say he does have something to prove. I get that this has about a 1% chance of happening but was curious how it would impact the cap.

Let’s hope the Panthers include McAdoo in picking the next QB. I have to believe if he had been the OC last year we would not have Sam right now.

I wonder if McAdoo had been the OC or QB coach last year if he would have been able to convince the decision makers not to trade for Sam and/or the 5th year option. If the Panthers had just rolled with Teddy, this team would be in a much better position right now with both space cap and draft picks (#38 pick for Sam is gone).

I would say Tepper has grounds for termination without pay IF Rhule truly is interviewing and openly discussing these other opportunities with the team. We don’t know if any of this is true but this would be conduct detrimental to team building and therefore seems Tepper could legally fire hire without paying the rest of the contract.

That is a first class seat…you can tell by the picture. Unfortunately I have flown way too much….

If they wanted a MLB why didn’t they pick Parsons at #8 instead of Horn? Having a stud MLB is more value to a team then a “above average corner” for a myriad of reasons. Horn will be good but if you can’t stop the run a “shutdown corner” no longer exists in today’s NFL.

A very bad college offense….

Darrell Williams….starting RG for the Bills. Big Mistake letting him go…

But would he have been as good with the Panthers? Maybe they would have played him at LG instead of his ideal location. Or maybe they would have played Slater in a different position every week. Brady was played in 4-different positions this year. Nobody could be successful like that. I still think one of the reasons (certainly not the only) the Oline was bad was due to a bad scheme. A bad scheme makes even the best players look bad. The entire offense was terrible and out of sink.

Don’t be saying these good things about Davis Mills. Rhule may see it and give up the 2022 #1, #4, and two 6’s for the guy along with the 2023 #1.

He kind of reminds me of when Greg Schiano was Tampa’s HC.

Brady was supposedly a rock star and did not even last through his second season. Remember after year one, he was interviewing for HC jobs? That guy sure did fall fast. Was he overrated or was he not provided the tools to be successful?

Good question LP. I think the Panthers thought they made the moves to address the OL and DL this past offseason but they were miserably wrong. This to me is what tells me these guys do not know what they are doing. Most could see the OL was going to be a problem before the season started so how could a highly paid NFL coach not see it?

Adam Gase….Get Sam back to where he was with the Jets would be an improvement. LOL and yes I am joking.

What makes anyone think he would stay healthy as a WR and/or playing in the slot?

Not that Teddy was “the answer” but the offense looked significantly better last year. And he would have been a good “bridge QB” for a young guy to learn from. I bet Rhule did not like Teddy because he was questioning how the offense and team was being run and that is why he is gone.

Tepper is a lousy owner. I think Rhule stays. Guess that means we all need to find another hobby

What does this say about Tepper if this is out there and yet Rhule is still here?

Regardless of what the Panthers do with Darnold, this team clearly needs to bring in several QB’s and let them complete. To me not having any QB competition for Darnold was as big of an error as trading for him. There were several affordable options this past offseason…. When a team doesn’t have a proven starting QB they need competition.

Let's talk O-Line and solutions for 2022: Of course, we all want a new LT and etc, but is this realistic, and with this coaching staff does it make a difference: The 2020 O-Line was ranked 18 at year end. Okung played like half the games, and so LT was a revolving door of Okung, Little and Scott. LG was also a revolving door of Reed, Daley, and Schofield. C was mostly Paradis but some Larsen. RG was John Miller, and LT Moton. In 2020, the right side of the Panthers O-line with Miller and Moton was average to sometimes solid. Even with all of the changes at LT and LG, the Panthers 2020 O-line was clearly better than the 2021 O-line (not that the 2020 line was super great, but easily better than 2021). Latest rankings show the Panthers 2021 O-line to be 'near the bottom'. So, my question is why is the 2021 O-line so much worse than 2020? Clearly, Miller has taken a step back as has Scott and Daley. Losing Larsen, Reed, Schofield, Okung, and Little should not have made this much of a negative difference. Not that Erving, Eflein, Daley, Scott, Miller and etc are top tier offensive lineman, but I don't see how they are significantly worse than last year. Obviously, more talent is needed, but I am wondering if there may be a combination of several other things missing. In other words, maybe talent would not be enough to fix the problem. With the right scheme and consistency, this o-line could/should be significantly better. This would be a coaching issue..... One thing noticed is the Panthers have had a combination of 12 different starters in their 15-games this year. Some of this is due to injury, but much of it is due to coaching decisions. Consistency and scheme seem to be missing from this o-line. As an example, Gross and Wharton had consistency and were even were neighbors and carpooled together. Those two had mojo when playing side by side. Either the Panthers have not 'picked guys' that fit 'their scheme', or they are not putting them in a position to be successful. Too many changes....IE - Brady C has played, RT, RG, LG, and LT this year as a rookie. How can this be setting him up for success? Scott and Daley has also been moved around quite a bit. Even the best players are not able to constantly change positions. Again, Miller and Moton were a pretty good combo last year, but are not this year. With all of the holes on this team (DT, MLB, S, TE, QB) and with limited draft picks I don't think the Panthers will have the resources to completely gut the o-line and start over. And if scheme, consistently, and coaching is contributing to terrible o-line play, new talent will not make that much of a difference. I truly believe some of these o-line guys are salvageable enough to be adequate...clearly need a stud C and LG as maybe, just maybe Brady could be an avg LT. BTW - Rhule has made a complete mess of this 'rebuild'. The QB situation could not be worse but that is another topic, but unfortunately related to the o-line.

Teddy was right!

The Panthers also let Daryl Williams walk and he is the starting RG for the Bills. I thought they gave up on him too early after his injury and apparently they did.

Rhule should be fired as he has clearly shown he is not a competent NFL coach. If he is not fired, my guess is he has convinced Tepper year 3 is the magic year as it was for his Temple and Baylor teams. I am not impressed with Tepper at all.

I don’t think the Panthers could have made a worse mess out of the QB situation. I mean they are stuck with Sam next year so you might as well play him.

Maybe Tepper will have a good soccer team.