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Rookie/developing Cam was in a great spot. Cam’s rookie season was a dream scenario for a rookie QB.

Frank was literally asked in his presser why the ball went deeper more vs Seattle. He is on video at his presser.

Because he is a proven horrible actual WR that can’t run routes and despite the athletic ability can’t get open. so they scheme him up a couple screens or routes a game.

Frank conceded he has to put new plays in for Dalton downfield per the vets request. Which certainly implied Frank intentionally kept it short weeks 1-2 at least vs Seattle

Probably better to just check out a 6 minute clip each week to get up to speed on Young than wasting a couple hours on Sunday at this stage

Big fan of these cut ups that show you all the snaps. It’s just TV footage but I like going back and watching. Just figured I’d share if anyone else likes them.

Yep, this is the Frank issue. Frank is horrific and was begged to quit doing it in Indy. He refused. Now he is being called out here. He can’t turn it over because there really is nowhere to go but up. Then what does that make him?

we brought back an entire OL that was what? Decent at archaic football? They aren't being asked to do that. That's not 2023 NFL football. Those are 2 different things. It's like old Cam Newton scoring some ugly TDs on the ground and then saying you don't understand why he also just sit back and pass. He scored TDs! I'm not sure Miles Sanders is a better RB than Foreman. What shows that? One season as an early down RB behind the Eagles OL? Foreman would abuse folks running behind that Philly OL. Because you couldn't play Foreman. The biggest problem is people buying into the Panther PR/fluff. It was talked about going in. -this wasn't an allstar staff - the backfield wasn't strong enough nor suited for the offense we would be running - the WRs didn't suit the offense we would be running - defense were going to come out and sit on the small ball pass attack and make life miserable for Bryce - OL leans toward run blocking that doesn't mesh well with what Frank + Bryce marriage in 2023 - Frank Reich is a horrific playcaller that will compound every issue and should never call plays here. People just didn't want to listen. All the above was said and predictable.

probably fell between #6 and #13. That site only shows the 5 best and worst.

offense scored 1 TD going into the 4th and it was on a busted coverage. I mean, credit to Dalton for seeing it but that performance is overhyped. OL was trash allowing a ton of pressure. We couldn't run for a single yard. And the Seahawks are a bad defense. Dalton handled it better than Bryce would have. And an ancient QB logged the most pass attempts in his long career to in order to generate that rather ordinary starting QB pass yardage.

this remains an unfair assessment. The Carolina was just a QB away in 2022 narrative. We played in a horrific division and had an easy schedule. That's just a formula for a weak team to stumble into wins in a quirky season. Then you add in opponents weren't equipped to deal with archaic football. Carolina wasn't playing solid football last year. They were playing 1950s football. Which helped limit and show how bad we were as a 2022 NFL offense because we weren't playing like one....and it aided a OL that wasn't really good at pass pro.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Burns traded. They couldn't agree on a deal. Now it's evident we are going to suck for some time. I think they slowly start to shift the language to full rebuild. Which is what we were setup to be doing. This braintrust just couldn't tell the difference between up and down. but it's Fitt. Mr. In On Every Deal that is bad for Carolina. So it will be a bad one. Probably trades Burns for Chosen Anderson and gives them a 4th on top of it.

Lions currently leading the NFL in QB pressures with 49 through 4 weeks. When did Frank figure out that ankle was a problem last time? Wed?

Offense 1. WR Laviska Shenault Jr.: 81.3 2. WR Adam Thielen: 73.5 3. WR Terrace Marshall Jr.: 71.4 4. LT Ikem Ekwonu: 70.4 5. RB Chuba Hubbard: 67.4 14. RB Miles Sanders: 55.2 15. WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette: 54.0 16. TE Giovanni Ricci: 52.3 17. TE Hayden Hurst: 44.0 18. LG Chandler Zavala: 37.0 Defense 1. S Jeremy Chinn: 85.0 2. CB Troy Hill: 76.7 3. S Sam Franklin Jr.: 75.5 4. OLB Amaré Barno: 69.7 5. OLB DJ Johnson: 67.2 16. OLB Brian Burns: 47.4 17. DE LaBryan Ray: 47.0 18. DT Nick Thurman: 44.9 19. DT DeShawn Williams: 40.6 20. CB D’Shawn Jamison: 38.7 Panthers PFF grades: Best and worst from Week 4 loss to Vikings (usatoday.com)

So the two worst starts to date in Panther history are the 0-5 last year of Fox season and the 0-7 last year of Capers season. football is football, odds would say we should enter the bye at 0-6 (given we play the Dolphins and Lions next). Houston, Indy, and Chicago are the first 3 after the bye. Does Frank set new worst start opening mark and get to 0-8? I think Carolina (0-8) and Chicago (0-9) meet personally. Just seems fitting.

Sanders got drug in Philly for running his mouth about the boos in Philly. Eagles Fans Chirp Miles Sanders After Asking Them To Stop Booing (brobible.com)

Miles got boo'd in Philly. You get paid millions to play a dumb game. You are the entertainment. You get boo'd when you suck for 4 straight weeks.

He finished the season 5 of 15 for 43 yards with 2 INTs. that's Sam Darnold after a couple weeks of film. It always ends the same. remember, there were folks claiming Sam was in the MVP race after the first several games with Rhule. Sam is always Sam. And all NFL teams need is a handful of weeks to figure out how a team is trying to hide his flaws before they feast on Sam.

what is the worst Panther trade. I mean, we don't know if Bryce is actually a bust. But let's assume he is in the hypothetical. What would be worse?

as of right now? No. There are still worse trades. BUT it could end up down the road if that 2024 pick turns into the #1 overall for Chicago and THAT pick turns out to be great QB.

Tepper every first for Tepper has been a train wreck - first HC hire -first GM hire -first major community investment

Yes, proper anger should first be directed at a horrible front office. Then you can go down from there. we have a bad owner and a bad GM, who hired a meh coach. They mortgaged our future for a low ceiling QB that I don’t think their meh coach actually preferred to attempt to build his O around. Early indications are he had to be convinced into the Bryce pick, his NFL college roommate essentially told us what Frank wanted and it wasn’t Bryce, etc. Now we have a shitastic offense and the low ceiling rookie QB being predictably bad in it. Which isn’t really Bryce’s fault. Bryce also has a high floor but that’s still really dependent on all the parts around him. And the coaching and skill talent around a rookie QB of Bryce’s style is horrible.

Week prior he admitted he had to put in some deep plays because Dalton was the QB. Frank was literally just fired for being a trainwreck playcaller. Frank’s just bad at his job. we got a limited rookie QB. You need great/strong playcalling with that. Not Frank Reich

Frank literally said he dialed up a play that could ONLY go to Theilen. Not that he was the primary read or first read. His direct quote was it could ONLY go to Theilen. it’s a clown show. Now I don’t think he tells him what to do every play but Frank is a joke. He admitted to adding in some deep plays for Dalton. Which sure seems to imply he didn’t have them in for Bryce because it’s not like we suddenly went crazy with it. Just NFL normal. He apparently does have plays where the ball can only go to 1 WR too. Frank is a joke. And if the top is a joke the team is a joke.

Our offense has been out coached 4 straight weeks