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We had a bad QB, a very weak OL and a rookie RB. No team can actually do what Rhule voiced he wanted to do. When we faced a very bad run defense in Atlanta....it was largely implemented. But a horrible run D provided the only opportunity. Rhule hired a passing OC, had no OL, no RB, and no pass threat at QB.....and was complaining about Joe Brady not running enough. That is fine and dandy but I see that as a Matt Rhule created issue first and foremost. You can't run on teams each week with that cast. Especially when the other teams knows you want to do that and that you are afraid of your bad QB. It's weird have people on focus on it as Brady not doing what Rhule wanted. He didn't have the tools to do it if he wanted to at least attempt to compete most weeks.....and every play went through Rhule's ear. Joe Brady shouldn't of been here. The O problem is still largely a Matt Rhule problem. We weren't pass heavy under Joe Brady. We were pretty balanced in terms of pass/run. Which is about all you can attempt with the horrible folks we had on O last year.

Teddy was showing resistance and pushback in season though too. I mean Rhule realizing he shouldn’t of hired Joe Brady is fine and correct. The timing of the firing wasn’t about us improving…..it was about Rhule throwing someone to the football gods because he was sucking though and under big heat. I’ve never alleged anything sinister in terms of motivation lol. Rhule just isn’t a good coach and is going to look out for Rhule when the seat is hot. Which I think is normal. And he is and has always been in over his head so he navigates messes of his own making.

So you think Ben McAdoo is the one throwing Sam Darnold, Elflein, Jordan, etc out there as co-starters at this point? I mean, whoever you deem is making those decisions. It all comes back to Matt Rhule. There is no sound reason for anyone to be doing some of this. We aren't week 1 at Wofford. It's either a charade gone to far or they are clueless.

yeah, and it would be him doing it in back to back years. Where the biggest cap hit on his roster is a one year wonder reject QB. Moving on from mistakes is good....but at the same time it highlights what a disaster Rhule has done at the same time. and I think a big a part of Rhule moving on from Teddy was Teddy calling out how whack a program Rhule was running. Not so much Rhule easily admits mistakes. Which it doesn't appear is actually the case. See all the bullshit starter competitions this year that have no real logical reason. A coach not wanting to admit he has been wrong might make sense though to explain it. I've already said I think Rhule finds a way to start Sam and then moves on to Baker in season. That remains my guess and I hope it is wrong.

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Sam is also the biggest cap hit on the 2022 roster. That a pretty massive cap hit. It's a weird space for Rhule to be operating. I don't think Rhule moving on from Sam is the absolute certainty that people think. and that's coming off last year where Teddy was the largest cap hit on that 2021 roster. I mean, I think moving on from Sam is the right call. Better to make a horrible move, admit it and move on. That often isn't seen a great deal in coaching. Because while moving on from mistakes is correct it also highlights pretty massive mistakes you are making.

Sam throws a TD preseason game 1. Rhule holds out all starters this week vs the Patriots Rhule then makes a decision. It's not hard to think Rhule simply argues that Baker wasn't significantly better than Sam enough to unseat him in his position and that Sam will start the season. Argues that Sam has to perform well enough to keep the job though. I still think Rhule is going to implement some weird desperate hot seat coach logic. He can suck w/ Sam and then move to Baker. Fans will be excited Rhule finally makes the right call. He can't suck w/ Baker and go to Sam. Fans ain't having that.

Yeah, that was discussed when we drafted Corral. Rhule has to win this season. If he doesn’t he mostly likely is done. There is little reason for him to care about developing a 3rd round rookie. No rookie wanted to land here. If Corral were to play this season, what it probably means Rhule was fired.

Urban, Lou Holtz, and Rhule (to date) rank ahead of Saban IMO.

Need both? It’s called a backup QB. They get backup QB reps and are called the backup. They come in if the starter is hurt. Rhule’s backup has always been ready to go. In fact, he has never lost a game when he went to his actual backup QB for whatever that is worth. If it’s the end of the competition then Baker would be deemed the starter. Would command the role. Rhule hasn’t done that. He would get starter reps. Get to work on developing better chemistry with his center for example. Didn’t we see a botched exchange Bakers one drive? Are Elflien, Jordan and BC the starters? They got the nod.

Rhule a year ago Matt Rhule looks at Slater. That’s a guard right there. We need a LT. Matt Rhule looks BC. Look at those tiny TRex arms. That ain’t no T. Draft Icky Well, I’m not sure we can start him over our LT BC lol. Matt Rhule should have nothing to do with a QB, OL or frankly anything on the offensive side of the ball.

Yeah, because he is 7-0. We count all professional football.

That’s college talk. If you have 2 starting QBs then you got none. Baker has missed 3 NFL games in 4 years because of injury. And his injury was to his non throwing shoulder. Part of the reason we played 3 starters last year is Tepper had to bring in Cam to stop the booing that was going on in BOA at the midseason mark. PJ didn’t get hurt. He was available to do the job Rhule had him rostered to do.

Probably not him alone but yeah. Last 2 in Rhule and Ubran have been really bad. think we see more Mike McDaniel types when teams want to be different

Yeah, he could of legally blown Baker up pending he didn’t go high and opted out. Allen prevented us from actually seeing the consequences of that bad OL play Also Elflein. that big play to Shi. In a real game, Baker gets destroyed.

In before some says Gross didn’t play LT his first year. we had a 10 year vet LT (that never missed a start) and made multiple Pro Bowls to play LT Gross’ first year before he left and Gross would then take over. Gross starting at RT made sense given we had a legitimate LT for one more season. We aren’t in a Gross type scenario. BC isn’t a 10 year vet that started every game and has gone to multiple Pro Bowls at the position. .

I think Corral is getting attention just because it is one more needle on the haystack when it comes to Rhule. so you watch a game that opens with the QB sideshow, the OL sideshow, then see a guy everyone knows is getting cut and at best not getting claimed and going to the practice squad dominate reps ….and finish with the Corral mess. I mean if you want to go with the 55 argument? That he doesn’t get any reps in practice because he can’t handle them??? Which I view as bogus. Well…..then a HC then shouldn’t put him out there to a play a quarter of preseason ball behind a really bad OL. That’s not development. And if you deemed him unable handle controlled practice, often without any contact or pass rush…..then you certainly couldn’t then also justify throwing him out there for a full NFL quarter. That logic simply continues to highlight that Rhule runs a nonsensical program.

I mean what has Sam Darnold in a competition with Baker Mayfield to begin with is the question. him having a spot as “co starter” is absurd to begin with. A 19 yard preseason drive certainly doesn’t make this nonsense more legit. Baker is simply a better QB than Sam.

Jordan, Elflein, Darnold. that should be enough to end this charade that Ben McAdoo is some new voice of reason in Carolina.

You talking about the same folks that have Elflein over Bozeman? Or the guy who ranted all last season about Brady not having the tools to play LT and now putting him over Icky? Or the guy who thought Teddy wouldn’t be a checkdown champion here or that Sam was worth making the biggest cap hit on our entire roster this year? yeah, people are assuming Matt Rhule doesn’t have the best eye for things or plan. Vegas assumes that too.

Yeah, that’s what people are doing. Voicing they hate the plan. You are essentially digging in that people can’t/shouldn’t question the plan and the plan maker. Matt Rhule hasn’t earned that. In fact he has earned the opposite. He has earned the rep that he should be questioned.

What spot is PJ competing for? I’d say developing young players is something people should care about. That’s Corral. Especially when the narrative by Rhule is the 7 year JayZ model and building things correctly from the ground up. and it’s not just QB. Last year Brady didn’t have the tools to be LT. Now our top 10 LT can’t get into his spot because of Brady. TMJ apparently had a gait issue Rhule finally was the one to figure out. Chinn after being runner up for DROY immediately moved.

Baker is the starter. Sam is the backup. That’s your two. what spot is PJ realistically competing for? Corral is getting the reps Rhule is willing to give him because of the mess ahead of him. Name a 3rd round pick in recent history that walked into being an immediate 4th stringer with no reps in training camp. But I guess your argument is most likely to be fired Rhule has a better master plan than everyone else for how to do things. Or maybe that Corral shouldn’t of been a 3rd round pick and was over drafted.

Has McAdoo developed a QB? Has Rhule ever had good QB play? it’s a hard sell IMO that they shouldn’t be questioned. With both having a past of nonsense and mismanagement. And they clearly are struggling right now with some easy calls IMO.