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McAdoo was essentially run out of NY because his playcalling was horrible and no one would touch him after that.

You seem to suggest it’s odd for fans to strongly dislike horrible coaching….

The importance and lack of reps (specifically the QB/C exchange) was repeatedly brought in preseason when Rhule was having his pointless completions……and when we saw it was an issue in the preseason game Baker played. it’s a poorly coached/lead team

13 carries by the Panther RBs. 33 by the Browns RBs

This is Horn’s rookie year. He is a raw mauler. He just needs time. He didn’t get any experience last season. Two rookies making their NFL debut and a team with no coaches is all he saw. People made too much of the fact of him looking good against teams that couldn’t challenge and test him out IMO. I think he will be good in time.

I’ll be back later today for the Matt Rhule threads. Y’all have “fun”.

It like the Joe Brady playcalling….but way worse. AKA Matt Rhule going to do Matt Rhule things

the Matt Rhule era continues…

I beginning to think it wasn’t Joe Brady that was the primary issue. It might be the coach that has never seen good offense on any team he has ever coached on any level….

If he was nursing an injury he would be on it I would think.

He isn’t even on the injury report though

then you got guys like LT2 who basically touched the ball 400 times a season over and over and over and over. and you can find guys that barely play and yet can never stay on the field because of injury. if you are going to pay someone carry the team money. Then you got to use him IMO. But we should get away from paying RBs.

Yeah, I was never a don’t run Cam guy. That was the condition I had of drafting him. Run him and let him be special…..and accept he won’t have a long pocket passer career. And while I don’t want CMC playing preseason ball, we paid him a freak a poo ton of money. CMC should get an absurd amount of touches. No point paying a RB and not using him heavily. I generally prefer not paying RBs but what is done is done.

I think there are very few coaches that can resist using true freak shows. a couple RBs fumbled early in the game too. So they went with the sure thing.

yep. This. They ran Josh Allen right into the teeth of the defense once the game had been put away.

7-10 Schedule is too tough IMO to expect much more than that But I do expect them to overall look better than 2021. I expect more of a 2020 feel where they are at least in games but just can't get over the hump.

also helps when Kyler Murray and Nuk Hopkins are taken off the table.

Not sure why, but each calculates plays slightly different. Total defense defines plays as pass attempts, plus rush attempts + sacks. That has us at the 3rd fewest plays defended. Drives Against is pass, rush and penalty. That has us at 7th fewest. So I guess the one I quoted is just official plays in the books. Other must be accounting for downs where penalty wipes it out.

2021 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com That's not how I read this. It says only the Bills and Bears defended against less plays than the Panthers defense. Yet we were 9th in penalties. And it has us at 1028 plays.

Gilmore came in on passing downs and erased people. I still wished we kept Gilmore and let Jackson go. I'd rather Horn be working under Gilmore.

Yeah, it's a message board. I'm not going to breakdown all the other 31 NFL teams when I'm simply trying to drive home a broad and general point. I've always said stats only tell part of any story. we weren't the 2nd best D in the NFL last year for example. That's just bogus even if the official stat line might say it. So I maintain, our D stats likely were skewed last year because of our opponents. That's not trashing the D lol. I think they did a great job given the hand Matt Rhule dealt them w/ Sam Darnold. But they were flawed last year and not great. They were good though. But the eyeball test and the stats show they overly rely on the blitz for pressure, and they struggle with teams built to line up and run it at you. Which I don't have added the bodies to solve that. That nitpicking our D obivously, it was good enough last year pending they had a good O. But they had a comically sad O.

it's not pretzel logic to look at schedules and observe that opponents can skew what a piece of paper says about a team on the year. The schedule is why some foolishly thought Sam Darnold was going to be good early on. It was just weak opponents. Sam was still Sam (which was noted when some were pretending he was good after a couple games) some teams are dealt tougher schedules in terms of defending the run, defending the pass, etc. Panthers had a pretty good schedule on multiple fronts last year vs some other teams.

I might of missed it but I would add defensive penalties as area that needs real improvement. We had the 9th most penalties despite having the 3rd fewest plays run against us.