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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/07/pete-carroll-drew-lock-would-have-been-the-first-quarterback-picked-in-this-years-draft/ I'm looking forward to seeing him this year but I am not going to get overhyped or fanatical about it all. It's just not fair to put that on the kid at this point. I am very excited to not be thinking about Sam or PJ. Either way, everything else is a bonus to me at this point.

Play Ickey at LT you say...

If he can't get a practice facility built in Rock Hill how can he complete a new stadium in downtown Charlotte on the tax payer backs as much as possible?

Hopefully the run game on the offense will be the best addition to the defense this year. The D looks solid and has a lot of potential but it could also not live up to last years unit with the gains vs losses in personnel. We will see. Lots of young guys that could step up.

It is so much of a better spot than we could have done with a Watson trade or even Picket in the 1st. It is a really good spot to build from, IMO the best option of the 3 by far. There has been some additions and some subtractions, in the end I think we gained long term but I don't know if the D will be as good or better than last year. That would require more than 1 player to improve a lot from where they were last year. That is just what I see, lots of upside but not production...yet. Happy to see what happens. No more blah vet QBs or old and injured prone LTs (or Erving who was just plain bad). Huge step forward.

I never wanted Watson and I am super excited about Ickey and look forward to seeing Corral this year at some point.

Hard to celebrate not pulling the trigger when we should never have considered him in the first place after doing their research on him. Everyone knew the Browns were over him before the Watson trade.

It was an overall average D with some upside. It also carried the O but that also is a big factor in the yards allowed, we allowed 200 more yards overall on the D than O had. We gave up 21 ints and only had 9 on D. I thought the entire idea was to get young and build the culture and foundation? Now it's forced to be young? Hurney did not trade for Sam lol. Yeah, I get we don't agree but your angles I just can't support or really understand on some levels. CMC was a big question mark last year, lots expeced him to get reinjured if we didn't stop Cam'ing him...we didn't and all signs point to it happening again (Rhule's own statment). Rhule has been much worse than Brady, Brady was just inexperienced. Rhule is Rhule.

Just let that poor kid play without yall putting the entire year on his shoulders. Good news is it won't take much either way to BE better than the sole 1st round QB. That is a lot more fun from where I am sitting.

I like Snow but I'm not sure he would want to take a HC job now or ever. It's not the same gig as a DC, honestly DC sounds a lot more fun...at least to me. I liked that about him, he liked where he was and didn't want to change that. I'm more worried he just leaves with Rhule at that point to go set up shop at some college with a nice chunk of change in his pockets. I would think McAdoo and Wilks would be jockeying over Rhule's smoking corpse if/when the situation arises. HCing has some politics tied to it through the owners, media and front offices. If Rhule does fall then the knives could come out or not.

We were the top team in points allowed in the bottom 1/3 of the NFL or last team in the 2/3 of the NFL. We also gave up terrible field position. The top 10 D does not stand, that is fair given what we both said. It could be soon but the entire point of a defense is to stop the other team from scoring, not to allow less yards at the end of the day even if the stat really does matter in the total evaluation. There are some big positives on the D but saying it was a top 10 D is very misleading. That is fair not BS or hope or hype. Nothing I said is an wrong or even really negative unless that naritive this was a top 10 D really matters to you for some reason. Some good, some bad and we saw some improvements and some not improvements (Chinn at FS comes to mind). We are used to having good to great Ds and 2021 wasn't comparable to our top D even with the upside it showed throughout the year. Lol Hurney helped build an all D draft that is a huge chunk of this D by the way...and I despise Hurney. So my point stands and you are trying to deflect to Hurney about how this crew did last year after drafting D in the 1st and a new GM...So still not Hurney's fault in 2021 and still not a top 10 D unless you are talking in yards allowed.

Either way, neither would make a good long-term candidate. I don't care, I just want it to happen so we can start talking about a new HC that is too good to be forced to work for Rhule and his mouth.

Cough cough top 5 pick cough cough Could be Wilks

28? Check out Charles Woodson's career

They both ran with the good WRs, they just had a safety over top and they were under. Without that safety and the other team can just make it a speed thing.

He was like Norman (his one year), zone CB that locked up good WRs. Kind of looked like man but he just didn't have the speed for true man play. Was true for both when their new teams went the other way to hard. He is still only 28. If you play heavy zone he is a great CB to have.

I thought he was a strong zone CB? Maybe I am completely getting that wrong. Looked it up and it said he was strong in zone schemes and bad in man. Giants stuff

O - QB play, CMC's health & building the O around his past production and then TEs. D - Run Stopping, Pass rush and too many DBs on the field sometimes (please tell me they won't be playing Chinn at FS again). Anything could change but I expect to see this at the start of the year.

IDK, zone CB play is something I don't miss. Maybe a switch to safety? I would guess someone would pay him more than our needs allow. Solid player and guy, dependable if you don't ask the world of him.

It's just country music from another country...

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/opp.htm Says 21 for 2021. I get your point but we were not a top 10 D by the end of the year. Snow is a solid DC for sure. A little DB crazed but solid unit. Plus add in the failed 2019 D switch that basically left our D to be rebuilt from ashes in 2020.

I think Sam, PJ or whatever warm body for the first 6 weeks is reasonable to expect with a 3rd round QB. If Corral can beat that timeline then great. Maybe some spot duty before then. Add in the Rhule effect and anything could happen. I think if it is looking bad at week 8 and Corral isn't playing for good or bad then it's time to finally fire Matt Rhule and let someone else interim the rest of the year.