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It was a six year hard tether and it was for $87.5 million....I think. Link

Trickle down economics is a sham. It was always about capturing as much wealth as possible while fooling those giving it to you. There is infrastructure that could benefit the city in these kinds of deals IMO but it's not what he is looking for.

So much saltyness. Dude worked over a terrible owner, GM and HC while going to a contender in a better city (IMO if you are young and rich, plus he went to school in CA). I don't blame anyone for not enjoying working with those people, they sure weren't any fun to watch. He would be wasted if he was still here. Hell they wasted everything they traded him for already. Be salty about turning a HoFer worth of value into a bunch of scrubs because all they could do was run him into the ground to save the jobs. I learned from when Peppers left here, he earned the right to go elsewhere and do his thing which I didn't believe at that time but I saw how it unfolded in the long run. I'm at peace with CMC and if you hate him just remember he still can't get a ring even being the stud that he is.

Yup, it is but they fall in love with their guy when they should treat it as a business. Hell we did it with Delhomme because there was a point where it was obvious and they wouldn't bring in anyone that was close to a threat. That game was rough for Miami but they also didn't win a game against a team with a winning record when they met them. They just look amazing against trash and mediocre teams. Still showing up to that game in that weather, or even the normal bad weather, that unprepared was just dumb. I know Miami fans and that's a thing that's been known since the Shula times.

Smith was tradable and his teams kept drafting QBs around him. I'm thinking that is more Tua purgatory.

Ready to play are starters. Think Bradbury vs Whorley. They have just been too uber focused on projects IMO and their biggest 'ready to play' guy is now a giant project. Projects can be great but this team has been chasing them heavily since Tepper showed up and I'm betting there is a corelation between that and the lack of overall talent on the roster.

It leaves the other half of the field vulnerable and if you can't attack that enoufh then it's going to be an uphill battle. It's like playing in the red zone all the time. It's the entire primise of bend but don't break was get them to a short field you have a chance at defending.

Or drafting projects vs solid ready to play guys when you lack enough tallent to field a competitive team or build the up projects...

It all sounds like more ways to clog up an already stacked box. If Young can't hit deeper more often then it's just more ways to get to 4th down.

I hope I live to see a Panther's team that drafts well someday. It sure does not look close. Hitting on one guy per draft got us to mediocre so the idea of 2 or 3 a draft would be fun.

I'll give it a try and set them to zero. Thank you!

I can't sell mine for the $250 transfer fee and they have been listed more than a year. It's my last year anyways, I wouldn't sign an extension to keep trying to sale. I'm walking if I can't sell them. I won't be going to a game anyways this year. They don't resale for much and that wasn't something that made me happy unless it was a game or 2 a year. It's time for me to walk. The team can take it and resale it or whatever. I'm way past recouping anything and just ready to spend that money someplace my family would enjoy.

Yup, so much money and time. I'll take my kid to a game this year in Tampa to see some friends down there but I really have no incentive to make another Panther game in Charlotte any time soon. I have zero faith on a watchable product materialize soon. It's so much easier to do something else and then just take a vacation on what I would have blown on tickets that I usually can't even resale at 50% cost. The Panther game day experience, regardless of the team quality, is archaic. The last game I went to was just a crap experience with great food before the game at a local joint. I really miss being excited to watch a Panther's game and I have no idea when I will be willing to buy tickets to one again.

IDK, people love a trainwreck. If it's as bad as it's been, yes in a new fun way, then people would watch that. It would be terrible for the NFL IMO. Just selling negatives is terrible for them if they are trying to hype up the season. At least the Bears have hope, even if the cameras and a rookie QB is a giant distraction when trying to get that guy NFL ready. Even with the first pick last year there wasn't much interest in the team nationally beyond the pick itself.

I have no idea how anyone, especially the Panther fans, would defend their practice facilities. If they are not the worst then they are definitely close. Thielen is right and if you don't like that then take it up with management. 30 years and it's still isn't at an NFL level. Even GB has one and they are owned by the fans.

You don't have to wonder it really has. The bad product only adds to it but once I got a great TV that 3+ hour drive got even less worth it. The only real positive the Panther's game day experience can have going for it IMO is if it's a good team. JR'S last few years felt like he was stripping it all down to sale and Tepper hasn't done anything to really improve it. Tampa last year was infuriating to me because they throw a great game day experience and that game was super lame outside of the rain. Watching Tampa do it better was depressing AF

I'm still trying. Had a few interested buyers but they always back out and that's at the $250 transaction cost. Looks like I will just let them go if no one wants them. It was sad but by now it's freaking pathetic how much they cost vs how much no one wants them.

But he was his own man and they wanted their guy to be the hero. Can't fault him longterm for going with the QB over a RB but that SB showed he would chose his way to lose vs doing what it takes to win another one.

Pete ain't been right since he leaned on Wilosn and lost a SB. Great coach but still

This is the type of crap that gets people hired there now so they think everyone else will love it also. It's still a clown show fyi, example all of this

It's just another year of the same with no end in sight yet it always feels a little worse as the suck drags on.

I'm not sure either would make the SB these days. A part of me misses it and a part of me realizes those days are likely dead

The panthers don't need thr nicest facilities they need NFL level quality facilities. It's been embarrassing for years what they do have. It's embarrassing how many schools have better facilities than an NFL team.

Both SB HCs were offensive guys. All of the other NFCS teams have deffensive guys and I would bet none of them will be seeing a SB with their teams. It's just the way it is for now and it doesn't look close to changing.

Kupp didn't win them a SB, the Stafford trade did. No WR is carring a SB. Kupp just showd his QB wasn't it so they went and got it. Hill is proving Tua ain't it either but it looks like Miami will pay him anyways. I said it's all about the QB and then the rest. The WRs just help those QBs and should help the team evaluate their QBs. Purdy just failed big time and that is a stacked roster. If the Viks new QB can't be it with Jefferson then he doesn't stand a chance without him. It's not about the WR carrying the team to a SB but the WR setting the young QB up for success and making it easy to eevaluateif they are it because that is the most important part of building a modern SB champ. They overspent but it was a luxury they could afford. If you think bringing in a rookie QB and letting your best WR go in the process then you didn't learn anything from the Moore debacle. If Young had a legit WR last year then half the BS about not knowing would be gone this year. I would rather pay to know then just hope. In a perfect world the organization could draft well enough to set up a Cheifs Mahhomes rookie cast or the 49ers but those are really the exceptions and not the rule, the dream I guess.