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Ben already turned down easy money last year to go back to being an OC. Tepper will get someone but this looks more like a wish. Guy has the pick of the litter and if he is half as smart as he looks then he will use Tepper's offer to seal a better deal with a team that let's him do his vision vs Tepper's mess. Seems like a real longshot.

And he had 2 SB champ kids. He was absolutely right when he told hos kid to not go to SD.

Lol thought I typed grandkid. Still holds

You have been seeing it for the last 6 years.

Manning isn't going to let his kid come to the Panthers. They won't have to try next year. It's set up already. All they have to do is not piss away any more future 1sts and it's a top 5 pick.

He looks to want to win and build something over just money. Try seeing what GM he would work with and whatelse it would take to make it work. I'm not huge on a HC picking a GM, I would rather see the opposite (I don't want to see anything else from SF). Tepper isn't getting rid of HIS GM and he isn't becoming more 'hands off' either. Expect a lot less then a Ben Johnson.

So he can pull a Frank and walk with a sweet retirement package? Tepper really does not learn. He needs someone that has a career ahead of them and not behind them. And that's just to start.

Rhule targeted it to the point of trying to get rid of 'Keep Pounding' and ended up turning it into 'Get Pounded' by accident. He burned it down and left ashes. Wilks set up a solid one from the ashes in a short time and then Tepper decided to not care about the football stuff he doesn't understand.

He was fine not building his staff in Arizona and Tepper put his wants into it this year also. I have no idea how Evero would have meshed with a defensive HC over him either. As far as the roster, Wilks is the coach that had Rosen drafted for him. There is zero reason to believe Fritterer would have changed much, that seems to be some of the issues Frank had here. It's wishful thinking really. Would some stuff have changed? Sure. Enough? I seriously doubt it. Wilks doesn't fix the ownership or front office issues, it already sent him to a 1 year HC stint. I think Johnson and Steichen had the best shots to make this team work given their specialties and even then it's hard to believe either one could overcome the mess here. I was fine with keeping Wilks but I thought and still think he would have been 1 and done given his ability and the situation.

That last Wilks game was brutal. The D also got worse as his interim stint went on. It was a better culture for sure tho. I get keeping Wilks anyways but he would have been 1 and done given the rest of the issues and setup they have going on. Wilks won in the end, he got a great job that gives him a chance to showcase his ability. Rhule destroyed the culture completely and now it's the Teppers Show by default. That is to say it's a negative culture that produced this year's abomination of an attempt to win.

Those same people missed a lot about Bryce that was on his school film. The fact is that the talking heads and draft experts proved their own limitations in that case. In the end there are politics and professional things going on that most fans don't get to directly see, like agents doing their thing and teams sending out smoke screen information at that time of the year. Who criticized Bryce for not doing more than a water weigh in and height measurements at the Combine? Most of what I saw was people praising his measurables and completely glossing over why he didn't or couldn't (he was retaining a lot of water at that weigh in). It should have been a red flag, smart for him for a flag for any teams, and no one raised a fuss. They actually just checked the box of big enough and went on with the 'pro-ready' shtick that also proved to be wrong. Anyone that did say something was endlessly quoted by the 'experts' that turned out to be wrong. Most of CJ's criticism was about the talent around him and the school he was coming from former QB products which is ironic because it turned out to be true for Young.

He was hit and ruined while throwing in the pocket so that is not true. The Hit He was actually doing well in that new offense they installed that year until that. They actually tried to create an offense to start using him as more of a passer and less of a battering ram that year, his 8th year in the league. The sad part is it was too late and in the same year where his shoulder was ruined.

He is the #1 reason they are bad. All he is doing is making everything worse and showing how little he knows and has learned.

I said they should have never made the trade and that Bryce was the worst of the 3 with AR being a huge project. All of the film I watched of Bryce said he was a dud at this level. I couldn't believe people raved about such poor play at that level. Now I just want to get to the point where they taking another swing. I get what happens in between but that's not my bag to hold. I just hope Bryce takes SF with him on his way out. That's the best I can hope from Bryce here.

Except his career was already near the end when he was hired. Didn't he say it was his last gig also? Is it being bullied or just saying fug it I got that gaurentedd cash while mailing it in? It sure seems that way when you look at his preseason strategy and then how he rolled the entire year. I would bet he took back playcalling just to make it end.

And there is a lot it can't cover up also. Nothing about a job with the Panthers sounds great. Millions vs working for the Teppers and their dysfunction? Only a young guy would tough that out to try and keep his career off life support.

He should. There should be an easy 3 game window before the film adds up. If not then it will be a complete pooshow.

Sounds like he didn't get along well with the FO either. This sure sounds like a pissing match between him and people in the organization and he was an old hand that had a guaranteed contract who knew how this all ends. He took the 'please fire me approach' and I would have too.

I would have taken the money over coaching either team too. The HC doesn't usually run the team so it's not like he hired and payed himself. Getting out of a contract with that much cash is a solid move for him and his, especially given the situation. He did a bad job but it was also a bad job.

He was the OC but the HC built and ran the offense. He never called the plays from what I have read.

Great way to guarantee a house cleaning in '25. Whatever, 2024 is a wasted year already.

The Panthers don't have a Franchise player. They have a few good players, Brown is one, but nothing more.

The truth is they picked the wrong staff and the wrong QB. It's now Bryce's time to salvage his situation but I have little faith it just ends up with a new QB and hopefully new HC/GM combo in '25. Maybe that will be the Teppers' year to pull a York.

Look to KC or Philly and not Alabama for an offense. Those teams have won recent NFL championships. Hell even Bryce didn't win a championship running the Alabama offense as a starter in school.