ForJimmy

I think the confusion is the cost to draft Young vs the cost of the trade. We lost a first, swapped a first and used it to draft Young. So the cost to draft Young was 2 firsts, DJ Moore, a 2nd, and a future 2nd. The cost to swap and move up to pick 1 was a future first, Moore, a 2nd, and a future 2nd.

Burrow is legit. Bryce's game was similar to his in college. Even Manning said he saw some Burrow in Young's tape.

Yeah if that’s the market then we either extend Burns or tag and trade him in the offseason.

I doubt we trade him but I don't think you understand it's not just for a 1st round pick. It SHOULD be a 1st PLUS player or more picks PLUS the money we can use for Luvu, Brown, and another player. I like Burns and am ok if we keep him, I just think it makes more sense to extend Brown, Luvu, add another player AND get some picks/players to work vs paying a pass rushing specialist on a bottom tier roster that kind of money.

Some people think it's a bad idea to give one play that can have minimal impact on our record as shown by the past 5 years 30 plus million a year when we have so many holes in the roster right now. If we were in the playoff hunt and ready to contend then sure throw some money at a player than could push us over the edge vs competition. We are not there yet.

At 1-6 that's not the worst idea. A lot of teams are in sell mode that have our record. It's also silly to not want any draft picks because we can't draft well. Fitt just has his first draft without Rhule and it's way to early to judge it, plus who knows if he will still be our GM or not.

What’s our record with Burns as a starter?

Yeah I’ve already told him I doubt the Lions trade him away. They are a playoff team and working on getting him involved in their offense. If he catches on, that offense could be deadly with St Brown, LaPorta, and Gibbs. They may trade away picks for a player, but I don’t think they are trading away talent at this point.

No problem. I don’t know what we offered him, but it couldn’t have been much less than the Bears deal.

Lol at people calling other fans fair weather this season. We are 1-6 and anyone still excited/supporting this team is pretty damn loyal IMO.

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/the-panthers-made-the-wrong-call-on-donta-foreman The Carolina Panthers offered running back D'Onta Foreman a contract last offseason but after Foreman turned the deal down, the Panthers decided to move on and instead, pay Miles Sanders a four-year, $25.4M contract. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/panthers-free-agency-offers-bradley-bozeman-donta-foreman/ According to Darin Gantt of Panthers.com, the team has already extended offers to center Bradley Bozeman and running back D’Onta Foreman. They are, obviously, considered top priorities for the organization this offseason.

How are you all going to feel if we trade for Jeudy tomorrow?

That’s how I remembered it. We offered deals to Foreman and Bozeman pretty early I believe.

His rookie year he has over 900 yards and 6 TDs. That with rookie Burrow for only part of the season and 6 full games of Brandon Allen and Ryan Finley.

Not a fan of the Lions helmets tonight.

Lol how is TMJ at 1??

Our run defense better show up for the Colts or Taylor is going to absolutely crush us. I don't think think we have many "should be" wins with this current roster.

That’s the most optimistic you’ve been all year! Look at you starting to come around…

We are currently not in last place. 1-7 Cards haven’t had their bye week yet.

Good point. The whole purpose of this season is to develop Bryce.

Just gives you an idea of how bad our offense/QB play has been these past 5 years or so. Hopefully Young can get us back on the right track.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/29/panthers-texans-week-8-2023-adam-thielen-bryce-young-game-winning-drive/

Nah he will only get better with more experience. I think he can become our WR2 with AT holding down the slot. We need a WR1 still.