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I believe Stroud's was two years ago. So an argument could be made that the more recent one is from wear and tear due to constantly taking hits. It's a pretty weak argument I admit, but still one that could be made as one prospect finished his most recent season not missing any games.

That's inaccurate. He missed one last year and played great the week after against UT.

If you follow the context of most they are saying it is a concern, but they are more than ok with the pick. It all falls apart with people state it isn't a concern, he won't get hurt because he only did once in college, look he took this one hit and survived so he can take 1000 more etc...

That number is just from McShay's article. I guess he is assuming Stroud's frame can add 6-7 pounds before preseason or maybe his ideal guy just weighs 7 pounds more? It was 6'2" 220 my fault. “The only thing I'm worried about with Bryce is can he hold up?” McShay said. “You know, that's really it. I mean, if he was 6-2, 220 pounds, there would be no conversation. Bryce Young would clearly be the number one quarterback in this class.”

Not at all, or at least I don’t think so. It’s the only thing that makes me lean Stroud but I will be very happy with Young and hope he breaks the barrier for the next guy his size.

That's a good point. You don't see nearly as many in college (or maybe I just don't notice). My first thought was bigger stronger hits in the NFL, but college also has smaller players taking hits so you think it would produce similar results... Dan Morgan and Luke never had the in college and in the NFL it was an issue.

For the record I think Young can be successful despite his size. I think it's something that shouldn't be ignored and pretend like it's not big deal. His pocket awareness and IQ can help avoid some of those hits, but he will probably need to change his style of play to a degree. Here are the two full quotes to keep it completely honest. He is saying exactly was @LinvilleGorgeand others are on this thread. It's a concern, but doesn't mean he can't be successful or we should pass on his at 1. It is "absolutely" a concern though... "Is Bryce Young's height (5-10) a factor for the Panthers in evaluating the Bama quarterback for the top pick? Says Frank Reich: 'Absolutely that is a consideration. It's also a consideration...his playmaking ability, his accuracy and his leadership, his instincts.'" "Frank Reich said durability concerns more the discussion with Bryce Young than batted passes, etc. Not much data to look at with small QBs b/c there haven’t been many. Points to Barry Sanders and Marvin Harrison as 2 small non-QBs who instinctively avoided big hits." https://athlonsports.com/nfl/bryce-young-height-frank-reich-carolina-panthers

That's why I am comfortable with us taking Young. I think his awareness and intelligence could possibly overcompensate for his size. It is still something that can't be ignored and that's the conservation out staff is probably having. Can Young adjust his style of play to take less hits, while still being great at extending plays? Can his intelligence overcompensate for his lack of size? The answer very well could be yes.

It's what they all do. If a player is coming in outside of the norm for anything then it is going to be projected and questioned. I remember them questioning if Cam's style of play can hold up in the NFL with bigger stronger players, or even Lamar's. Neither of which has durability concerns in college. They will use educated projections on every element of the player and game, especially when you are drafting 1 overall. You don't have to agree with it, but it's what they do. Frank Reich already said "of course it's a concern" so it is a concern to our HC who is making the pick.

There are way too many factors IMO like playing style, types of hits etc. If all things are constant then I would imagine a smaller player/object would be more damaged by impact than a larger one.

It was a clear exaggeration that larger items/people can handle the same impact better than smaller ones all things else being equal. It's just physics.

Everything is technically "imagined" right now as none of these guys have taken one NFL snap. Part of the evaluation process is projecting how their skills will translate to the NFL. It's no secret his size is conering to some teams. It's why he isn't the clear cut top choice. Also I don't recall Kyler getting many injuries in college if any at all.

Someone breaking bones has little to do with them having concussions. It's the impact of him being tossed to the ground that is causing him troubles in the NFL. I don't think any of his college injuries have come back. It's concerning, but I will say Young looks much better at taking hits (as weird as that sounds) than many QBs. He simply goes with the momentum and keeps his body limp. It's almost like he trained himself for it which I wouldn't be surprised if he did. He is obsessive in his training with usually translate great in the NFL.

Tua had totally different injuries in college. I don't think he had any concussions at Alabama?

I feel like people are arguing against physics... Would you feel safer getting in the same wreck in a SUV or a Miata?

Yes a QB who is larger than Young, but still considered undersized was brought in to show concerns as stated by McShay. He even mentioned if Young was 6'2" 220 he wouldn't be nearly as concerned. It's one of the reasons Stroud could be considered "safer" by some teams. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/04/05/todd-mcshay-tua-tagovailoas-injuries-affect-how-i-see-bryce-young/70085705007/ McShay: Tua Tagovailoa ‘getting rag-dolled' raises concerns about Bryce Young's durability

Yeah agreed, but the smaller size one taking hits is more concerning. Does it mean he shouldn't go 1? No. It's is his biggest concern. I don't hear scouts/analysts showing concern about the other QBs being durable in the NFL.

Yeah he was also playing hurt that day and had to rehab his shoulder afterwards. Now imagine this happening more often with bigger faster players. If someone survives a car crash it doesn't mean that will survive the next one right?

Someone stated a universal critique about Young. His size is concerning especially after what happened to Tua who is larger than him. So you try to say we should be concerned about another larger QB's size to counter it. That's just nonsense. So if the 6'3" 220 guy is "concerning" what does that make the 5'10" 190 guy? Off draft boards? Someone critiqued your guy and you couldn't handle it. This is what you can't grasp. Most people on here have no problem with Young, but we can't have a normal conversation about his strengths and weaknesses without some off the wall debate. All the QBs in this draft have weaknesses and yes the Tua injury raises eyebrows about Young's size. Todd McShay already said this exact thing.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/04/05/todd-mcshay-tua-tagovailoas-injuries-affect-how-i-see-bryce-young/70085705007/

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/04/05/todd-mcshay-tua-tagovailoas-injuries-affect-how-i-see-bryce-young/70085705007/ Todd McShay is literally saying this same thing.

6'3" 220 with ability to add weight is nothing crazy for an NFL QB. 5'10" 190 is historically low. If Tua who was considered undersized got tossed (literally) around and injured it is definitely concerning for a shorter, smaller QB. It's very simple...

You can't critique his boy Young he can't handle it.

Let's make it easy. Show me where any analyst/scout/coach is concerned with Stroud's size. Our own HC stated there was a concern with Young's. Why do you think that is?