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Winning QBs in the Super Bowl? Why not just sign Foles or Flacco then as I am sure they will be available this offseason? People get hung up on just winning the big game. We want sustained success like the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals (are starting to get), Packers/Saints (previously had), Steelers and similar franchises. The Steelers had Big Ben retire and immediately drafted a QB in the first even with a weak class (maybe he is the answer maybe not, but they are probably going to keep trying until they get their guy). They all have or had elite QBs that they drafted. Sure you can pull an Eagles and win with a great team or the Broncos and win with an elite defense, but those teams missed the playoffs afterwards and fired their coaches. Broncos are so desperate to find their QB they threw away a draft and huge money at Russ. SB victories are going to be a tough measurement as Tom Brady has such a large portion of them. We want sustained success and not to be the franchise constantly talking about the Super Bowl we won however many years ago.

No you don't trade away young talented players on rookie deals for picks because one is a sure thing for the same money.

Who should Tepper have chosen? It was between Wilks and McAdoo and McAdoo was fielding the worst offense in the NFL. I think WIlks was the best candidate and gives them the best chance to win. Tepper even came down to the locker room and gave Wilks the game ball. I'm ok with a 5 win team because we are "tanking" or building for the future. We are trading away picks to acquire CJ Henderson, Shenault, or Gilmore. Out focus is developing our young talent, resetting the salary cap (2023 takes the big hit and 2024 is wide open), and collecting draft picks. Throw in a high 1st round pick QB and I think we are headed in the right direction.

Wilks never "tanked" before in the way you are describing. He had a bad team with a rookie QB (Rosen) who was proven he doesn't belong in this league so yeah he struggled to win. Why would he tank as a first year coach with a rookie first round QB?? He was fired after one year because they struggled which was not by design. I mean last year we started off 3-0 with CMC so I don't see how our 5 wins last year were mostly without him?

I want to see Chinn in Wilk's defense! Maybe he will use him correctly.

Let's sign Sam to a max also and let him and Mac battle it out.

I love it when you talk dirty you filthy little tank...

Chiefs and Bills are playing to win now. Do you see them trading away vets for draft picks? We are not playing to win now, as our main concern is the future which includes draft picks. Getting the picks for CMC solidifies we are not focused on winning now from a front office perspective. It we do then great! Our main concern is developing young talent and securing more draft capital to continue building.

Yep. You are either developing and building for the future or in win now mode. We are not in win now mode as we are not looking to trade for a missing piece or two from a team building for the future. Teams building for the future will trade away vet players to teams in win now mode. As we are the ones trading away our players we are building for our future.

Exactly. We aren't going to march our team out there and just punt it every play to lose. People are getting way too literal with this poo. Trade away the big contracts and get picks (CMC and RA). Sit any play with a mild injury (Horn) and roll with your young guys. It's how they "tank" in the NFL.

24 year old elite pass rushers probably don't become FAs very often. If they do it's usually a bidding war in which they pick where they want to go.

Pop Quiz The only team in the NFCS on a win streak is???????

Shaq is the last one that makes sense. Vet on a large contract. The rest are young building blocks for our future. Maybe Erving or random depth vets for a cheap return.

I love the optimism and yes the coaches and players are always in win now mode as they get paid to win games. The front office/organization as a whole is not. They are preparing for the future by selling off vets to the highest bidders. It's how NFL teams "tank."

So you think we are in "win now" mode? That we traded away 2 vet players (one arguable one of the best at his position) for future picks while taking a huge dead cap hit this year because we wanted their backups to play more? If we thought Foreman was our best shot all year why did he have so little reps up until this game? We also didn't go into the season things PJ Walker was the guy to take us to the playoffs. It's a 3 horse race for the top QB right now between Stroud, Levis, and Young. It probably depends which coaches/teams have which picks and how those players fit into their system. There is also a lot of football left. I don't think we are "tanking" to acquire a certain one. We are just concentrating on our future right now vs our present. We are almost certainly drafting a QB because we are working on the future not the present right now. Fitt has already mentioned he thinks the best way to acquire a QB is to draft your guy and develop him.

I would almost always draft a big OL in the later rounds, maybe even 2.

I’d be very surprised if we don’t have a top 10 pick this year.

Pass rushers are a premium position. The number one pick is either a QB (most common), pass rushers (2nd most common), or LT. These are the top 3 premium positions and if we have a top young player at one of these positions, we better get one hell of a return if we trade him.

Tanking in the NFL is just selling off your vet players and acquiring draft picks. You are focused on your future not the present. If players have mild injuries you sit them and don’t risk them trying to play through it. Keep them healthier for the future. No one is expecting the players or staff to literally not try to win. We are just no longer in win now mode.

Akers would cost money toward the cap. Our RBs looked great, so I’ll take the picks all day long

Would Wilks be cool with it? He may feel he deserves to be HC. Plus he is part of that law suit.

If teams want to focus on the future, they trade away high salary veteran pieces for drafts picks like we are doing. If our young core can play their asses off and secure a few wins then that's great. If we strip our team down of it's vets and are still competitive than a middle first round QB will fit in nicely. I'm trying to figure out what we are doing at HC. Tepper wants a young offensive minded HC, but if Wilks keeps us competitive do you not give him a shot? It's still early and a lot of football left to be played.

Especially if Richardson declares (I’m not so sure he will though).

That looked worse than any other rookie in preseason…

Don’t overlook Penix Jr if we win several more. He is putting on a show in Washington this year.