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9 years ago in 2012. Sweet. Although we do have the GM that may have been part of it.... Tom Brady was drafted way before the last decade.

Oh yeah it’s 100% up to our front office on how they feel about these prospects. The link I saw stated they “love” Fields and “like” Jones. My only point has been Darnold shouldn’t stop them from taking a QB they are high on IF they fall to us at 8. Agreed on the first round picks, but it’s amplified with QBs. Outside of Dak has their been one outside of the first that’s a solid starter in the past decade? I know there are always exceptions, but the odds are not in their favor.

Ahh I forgot TD was a safety at first. Yeah we can get a QB later, they just have a MUCH smaller chance of working out and we would be drafting one just to do it. The whole point is that IF a top one falls to 8, we shouldn’t hesitate. Verge had a great post about the success of QBs taken past round one in the past decade. It was heavily favored by First Rounders. I think Dak might be one of the rare ones that is a great QB taken after round one in that past decade.

Yeah makes too much sense right. I get people wanting a LT, but getting upset about the idea of taking a top QB that falls to us when we have other needs is odd to me. Every QB picked number one over all goes to a team with many needs...

They may have drafted players high, but it is still listed as the top need for the Chargers after they got Herbert. That’s how we beat them last year (constant pressure on Herbert). Baker had no protection his first two seasons. They just addressed it last offseason. Teams know you can’t compete consistently without a QB. Once you find your guy, it’s much easier to address needs. We just pumped money into RT (franchise tag) and signed several guards/centers. Little was a LT high 2nd pick he just busted. You can only draft one position in the first (usually). So you can’t just go by first round picks. We haven’t picked a Safety in a looong time or CB since Gamble in the first, TE? can’t think of one?

The Chargers have PLENTY of needs including offensive line. They were picking higher than we are this year with many holes. Guess what their biggest need is right now? Offensive line. Tackle and Guard. They had an opportunity to grab a top rated QB in the top 10 and used it on Herbert. He sat out at first and only played because that doctor punctured Taylor’s lung. QB is too important of a position to pass up. It’s much easier to find good linemen/any other position than a good QB. Browns got Baker first line later, Cardinals got Murray first line later, Bengals are doing the same with Burrow.

So you would have passed on Herbert last year if he dropped to us since we had Teddy? He didn’t start over Taylor day one for SD. Mahomes was pick 11 and didn’t start day one.

So the real catch is what the writer thinks a future 2nd and 6th, 4th round picks are valued. Do I value them as strong enough capital to pass on a potential franchise QB if he happens to fall to us at 8? Absolutely not. I think it was used to move on from Teddy (apparently Tepper wants this) and secure a young QB with potential in case the one we like isn’t there at 8 (which he very well might not be). Do they think Darnold can be a starter? Yeah I think they believe that. A top 10 drafted QB is viewed at as more than just a starter. They can be franchise changers. Alex Smith was a solid starter yet the Chiefs still traded up for Mahomes. It all boils down to how they view Fields and none of us know the answer nor should we at this point. Here is a great example. We viewed Teddy as a starter and gave him a solid contract showing our confidence in him. They have stated if Herbert fell to them he would have been the pick. Imagine if he did fall and we didn’t draft him because we had a potential starter in Teddy and too many needs in other areas...

He is a top tier backup that won’t win or lose a game for you. It’s what he always was and still is...

It takes both sides hinting at it’s all a games of unknowns. That’s the whole point of the article.

I think Pitts is one of the top players on our board. I would guess we take Pitts and hopefully grab a LT in the 2nd if it falls like this.

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/are-the-panthers-not-done-at-quarterback?fbclid=IwAR2RMjAbkb_8VH4ZTV5Mwa2Q_l5IQ9U6n1CbBmcAnYrw0JX2pL0s6YLRPAg

This makes the most sense. I don’t know why people are struggling with this. We got Darnold because there was significant doubt Fields will be there at 8. After the draft, Darnold’s price could go up for desperate teams. We went ahead and secured our backup plan for little draft cost.

Agree 1000%!

People are claiming they will be upset if we draft a QB because we have Darnold. I’ve heard we are an incomplete team, have bigger needs etc... Hopefully our staff knows better. There aren’t many “complete” teams in the league. Most teams have weaknesses and without a QB we will never be able to compete consistently.

Yeah especially if a team like NE get one below us... I’m surprised people are die hard against drafting one. We were fooled with Teddy, now we are suppose to be all in on Darnold. I hope he works out, but there is just as good of a chance he doesn’t...

Depends on who we get. I’ll live with a LT, might shed a small tear...

I think it made them up the offer. I know they had been speaking with the Jets off and on. In on every deal right? All draft aside, I really enjoy reading your posts/debating with you. It’s never just pure opinion and I usually learn a good bit from them.

He wasn’t plan A or B we know that. We also know they haven’t picked up his 5th year option yet. They also went up on their offer for Darnold (they didn’t want to trade a future 2nd for this starting QB) after the Niners traded up to 3 and the Falcons said their pick at 4 is for sale. You are doing the same thing as me and letting your feelings decide how they are thinking. They said QB is still on the table for the draft and you just ignore that part and roll with they view him as a starter. You can’t pick one piece they say and ignore another because it matches how you feel. No one knows exactly how they view Darnold or any QB from this draft. I know they are still looking at QBs and even sending staff to Fields second pro day. Is that just smoke? Maybe? Myself as well as you are always going to view it through “fanthink” because we are fans. The staff doesn’t want us to know their every thought because that would mean other teams would know as well.

Yep.

Now they are going to Fields second pro day right? I really don’t think he will be there at 8, and I will never be mad at drafting a LT. I just don’t like the idea of picking up players like Teddy, Sam, or QBs other teams don’t really want and thinking we can make them something better. I see Darnold has upside, but a top 10 pick should almost always considers QBs in that draft unless you have a proven player at the position. The Niners showed everyone how much it costs to trade up from the middle to get one and the price might go up in the future.

I think he is better than what they have now. If something better falls to them they should draft him. Since we are quoting what they said, “it doesn’t take us out of taking a quarterback” is exactly what our GM said after Darnold. That shows me they acquired him for in case one doesn’t fall to them (which it probably won’t).

Would a player competing for our LT spot not be viewed as a starter quality player? I’m sure they view him as having starter qualities, however the jury is still very much out. You don’t get starter quality QBs for what we traded for him. Assuming he is the absolute answer isn’t much different that doing it with Teddy like we did last year. What did Rhule and Fitts say about drafting a QB?

So they told Darnold he will be there starter? Seeing someone as a potential starter isn’t that different that saying you will compete for the starting job. Where is the context of the team constantly saying this? I see they like his grit and talent. You are talking about the coach who says he looks forward to working with Cam before he got released. It seems pretty clear that no one is penciled as the starter before the draft.

They also told Irving they see him as our LT AND said they may draft a QB still. Right now he is the starter because it’s him or Teddy. If a talent falls to them, that may change.